campag compatability

pinarellokid
pinarellokid Posts: 1,208
edited July 2013 in Workshop
i have a pair of 11 speed athena shifters and an 11 speed cassette.
could i fit these to my bike and use the shifters, with a 9 speed veloce rear derailleur

so 11sp shifters, 11sp cassette and chain but a 9 speed RD..

or will i have to wait until i have an 11 sp rear derailleur

guessing it would work fine but thought id best ask
Specialized S Works SL2 . Campagnolo Record 11spd. rolling on Campag Zonda wheels

http://app.strava.com/athletes/881211

Comments

  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Should be fine, as long as the jockey wheels are happy with the 11sp chain.
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  • pinarellokid
    pinarellokid Posts: 1,208
    just until i can pick up a RD at the right price .. cheers
    Specialized S Works SL2 . Campagnolo Record 11spd. rolling on Campag Zonda wheels

    http://app.strava.com/athletes/881211
  • gfk_velo
    gfk_velo Posts: 78
    Hi Pinarellokid - no, it won't work.

    The cable recovery in the lever relative to the RD movement / geometry is all wrong.

    9s (after 2001) and 10s had the same geometry so you could mix and match those units without too many problems, so long as you were careful about jockey wheels & jockey cage widths, only really having to worry about some return spring tension changes in low end derailleurs after 2007.

    To fit 11s into the space of 10s though required a total rethink of the shift lever, the amount of cable it recovers, the movement of the RD relative to the cable recovery and the sprocket spacing - it's also far more sensitive than even 10s to liberties being taken with set up.

    I'd wait until you can get hold of an Athena 11 RD, and enjoy the shifting as it is supposed to be.

    You'd also be best advised to get an 11s FD and chain-set, too - 10s items will work, but won't work at all well & you will almost certainly find issues with the 11s chain jamming between the 10s rings, or occasionally "riding" on top of the inner ring, not meshing with it.

    ATB, Graeme @ Velotech Cycling (Main UK Campag Service Centre)
  • pinarellokid
    pinarellokid Posts: 1,208
    Cheers Graeme

    It's really to get my winter 9 speed veloce upgraded you see
    My Sunday bike is currently 11sp Athena. And I wanted to buy new record shifters and Record FD
    Then I could have been running mainly record on that

    Then match Athena 11 sp. shifters with Athena 11chainset and Athena 11 FD from old summer set up
    Putting this on winter bike but only part I would need now then is 11 sp RD

    Certainly much better to ride 11 rather than 9sp. Guess il wait until I have full set up then
    Thanks for saving me the heart ache lol
    Specialized S Works SL2 . Campagnolo Record 11spd. rolling on Campag Zonda wheels

    http://app.strava.com/athletes/881211
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Wow, cheers for that response Graeme :)

    Good stuff. Sorry for the duff info Pinarellokid.
    Ribble are doing the rear Athena mech for a shade under 75 quid so should be able to pick up used for half that.
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • pinarellokid
    pinarellokid Posts: 1,208
    il need to keep my eyes peeled
    Specialized S Works SL2 . Campagnolo Record 11spd. rolling on Campag Zonda wheels

    http://app.strava.com/athletes/881211