High Street haggling
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seanoconn wrote:VTech wrote:seanoconn wrote:I haggled and got £200 off my wife's engagement ring 8)
She was in the shop with me at the time but hey ho, a bargain's a bargain
That's Genius, shows you care, but will also try and save so that she can have more
Mrs V wanted an eternity ring - I tempted her out to Abu Dhabi so I could do the triathlon there. After, we went to the gold souk and I haggled a few hundred Dirhams off the price whist she was watching. She didn't mind, she got the ring she wanted.0 -
MountainMonster wrote:Giraffoto wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Bugatti are a French company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, but the company that now bears his name is a part of the Volkswagen group.
Back to the topic . . . I used to do this sort of thing a lot, but now I tend to only do it for the big ticket items. And since I hardly ever buy big ticket items, that's not often.
By your logic Jaguar are now American because Ford owns them. They are British designed, so are British. Same as Land Rover. Bugatti is a French company regardless of who owns them.
Indian.
Tata are an Indian based group. But I still regard JLR as quintessentially British.0 -
Ballysmate wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Giraffoto wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Bugatti are a French company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, but the company that now bears his name is a part of the Volkswagen group.
Back to the topic . . . I used to do this sort of thing a lot, but now I tend to only do it for the big ticket items. And since I hardly ever buy big ticket items, that's not often.
By your logic Jaguar are now American because Ford owns them. They are British designed, so are British. Same as Land Rover. Bugatti is a French company regardless of who owns them.
Indian.
Tata are an Indian based group. But I still regard JLR as quintessentially British.
Ford is owned by Tata now? When did that happen?
So by your logic Bugatti are French.
Edit: Just looked, had not heard JLR were bought from Ford!0 -
Ford sold it after buying it for £6m from BMW who purchased it for the tech on the X5 and the mini brand.
As it happens, my next door neighbour is one of the Phoenix 4 who is oddly married to the UK's ambassador for Chinese/British tradeLiving MY dream.0 -
MountainMonster wrote:Giraffoto wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Bugatti are a French company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, but the company that now bears his name is a part of the Volkswagen group. . .
By your logic Jaguar are now American because Ford owns them. They are British designed, so are British. Same as Land Rover. Bugatti is a French company regardless of who owns them.
It was history, not logic. I didn't suggest what nationality I thought the Italian designed, German managed, French assembled (with parts from all over the World, but mainly Germany) Bugatti Veyron should be, because it's a bit of a confusing issue .
Is every Specialized bike American?Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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VTech wrote:Ford sold it after buying it for £6m from BMW who purchased it for the tech on the X5 and the mini brand.
As it happens, my next door neighbour is one of the Phoenix 4 who is oddly married to the UK's ambassador for Chinese/British trade
Are you not getting your Rovers and Land Rovers mixed up, I don't think Jaguar has ever been under the ownership of BMW, that was the Rover car group, not Jaguar-Land Rover.0 -
Taken from wiki
Land Rover is a British car manufacturer with its headquarters in Gaydon, Warwickshire, United Kingdom which specialises in four-wheel-drive vehicles. It is part of the Jaguar Land Rover group, a subsidiary of Tata Motors of India.[4] It is the second oldest four-wheel-drive car brand in the world (after Jeep).[5]
The Land Rover name was originally used by the Rover Company for one specific vehicle model, named simply the Land Rover, launched by Rover in 1948. Over the following years it developed into a marque encompassing a range of four-wheel-drive models, including the Defender, Discovery, Freelander, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover Evoque. Land Rovers are currently assembled in the company's Halewood and Solihull plants, with research and development taking place at JLR's Gaydon and Whitley engineering centres. Land Rover sold 194,000 vehicles worldwide in 2009.[6]
Although the brand originates from the original 1948 model, Land Rover as a company has only existed since 1978. Prior to this, it was a product line of the Rover Company which was subsequently absorbed into the Rover-Triumph division of the British Leyland Motor Corporation (BL) following Leyland Motor Corporation’s takeover of Rover in 1967. The ongoing commercial success of the original Land Rover series models, and latterly the Range Rover in the 1970s in the midst of BL's well documented business troubles prompted the establishment of a separate Land Rover company but still under the BL umbrella, remaining part of the subsequent Rover Group in 1988, under the ownership of British Aerospace after the remains of British Leyland were broken up and privatised. In 1994 Rover Group plc was acquired by BMW. In 2000, Rover Group was broken-up by BMW and Land Rover was sold to Ford Motor Company, becoming part of its Premier Automotive Group. In 2006 Ford purchased the Rover brand from BMW for around £6 million. This reunited the Rover and Land Rover brands for the first time since 2000 when the Rover group was broken up by BMW. In June 2008, Ford sold both Land Rover and Jaguar Cars to Tata Motors. This sale also included the dormant Rover brandLiving MY dream.0 -
wheres Partridge when you need him?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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Giraffoto wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Giraffoto wrote:MountainMonster wrote:Bugatti are a French company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, but the company that now bears his name is a part of the Volkswagen group. . .
By your logic Jaguar are now American because Ford owns them. They are British designed, so are British. Same as Land Rover. Bugatti is a French company regardless of who owns them.
It was history, not logic. I didn't suggest what nationality I thought the Italian designed, German managed, French assembled (with parts from all over the World, but mainly Germany) Bugatti Veyron should be, because it's a bit of a confusing issue .
Is every Specialized bike American?
Aren't all these cars now made in Tiawan, using moulds designed in Italy?Cycling weakly0 -
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Tried to haggle at the local gym tonight, they weren't interestedLiving MY dream.0
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I got a good deal on my mobile contract today, should have been £21 a month, got it for £10.50"Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity"
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arran77 wrote:I got a good deal on my mobile contract today, should have been £21 a month, got it for £10.50
That's nothing, mine is Free!! (free.fr, 2 hours of calls, unlimited texts).
(Well it's normally 2 Euros a month, but if you have their internet box, it's free).0 -
I haggled with the wife and got two kids for free. Cost a fortune to run though....0
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southdownswolf wrote:I haggled with the wife and got two kids for free. Cost a fortune to run though....
You're not wrong there, it's only free to make them"Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity"
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arran77 wrote:southdownswolf wrote:I haggled with the wife and got two kids for free. Cost a fortune to run though....
You're not wrong there, it's only free to make them
Nope, not free to make them either. Costs in the region of £60+ accounting for dinner and drinks. LOL0 -
Except maybe the supermarket i rarely pay full price for anything. The mother in law is tighter than a gnats snatch and has taught her daughter very well so guess this has rubbed off.
Even when we go to the market to get fruit and veg I will haggle, it has become second nature. Best I have had is a TV, only had the display model in stock, was £900, got it for £290.Life isnt like a box of chocolates, its like a bag of pic n mix.0 -
simonhead wrote:Except maybe the supermarket i rarely pay full price for anything. The mother in law is tighter than a gnats snatch and has taught her daughter very well so guess this has rubbed off.
Even when we go to the market to get fruit and veg I will haggle, it has become second nature. Best I have had is a TV, only had the display model in stock, was £900, got it for £290.
Is she italian ?Living MY dream.0 -
VTech wrote:simonhead wrote:Except maybe the supermarket i rarely pay full price for anything. The mother in law is tighter than a gnats snatch and has taught her daughter very well so guess this has rubbed off.
Even when we go to the market to get fruit and veg I will haggle, it has become second nature. Best I have had is a TV, only had the display model in stock, was £900, got it for £290.
Is she italian ?
No mother in law is Guyanese, father in law is Welsh, wife was born in Saudi, raised in Vienna and moved to Purley (technically it was Croyden but they call it Purley) when she was about 7. Regardless of where we go on Holiday the locals think she is native.Life isnt like a box of chocolates, its like a bag of pic n mix.0 -
Might I humbly suggest some advice for anyone reading this thread and wodnering how one even begins to haggle. Some key phrases suggested here, that when used politely and with positive body language, tend to yield results for me
"What can you do to improve the price"
"What can you do to make the package more attractive"
"I like <product/service> but I would like to be able to say to my <spouse / family / friends> that we got a good deal here with you".
For far this year, these have been used to get plenty of discounts, without much actual "haggling" ("I give you best price", "you're killing me!" etc etc). Some examples to show how it quickly adds up;
£discount value (product/service, %value of discount)
£8,000 (house purchase, 1.7%)
£2,300 (estate agent fees, 33% of original quote)
£175(furniture, 10%)
£25 (washing machine, 10%)
£112 (phone contract, 33%)
£26 (bike accesories, 17%)
£715 (car, 11.5%)
£55 (car winter tyres, 12.5%)
£10 (shoes, 10%)
£85 (suits, 15%)
£17 (wine, 7.5%)
Even without the large captial expenditure (house and furniture) which I accept is not something you do every year, it's still £££. And that, my friends, is a fair bit of bike0 -
It's apparently against the British mindset to ask for things straight out, so you do need to find some way of introducing discounts into the conversation without feeling like you're doing it. A similar idea comes into play when you're trying to trade in your old car for a new one, and the salesman says, "how much of a trade-in are you looking for?" He's relying on (a) you don't want to look greedy and (b) you want to look as if you're up to speed with Glass's Guide (mainly a male problem, that last one)Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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Well, today has been a good day, I got a 12% discount on my new car including a very decent part exchange, 2 weeks and on the roadLiving MY dream.0