Di2 Ultegra 6770, Dura-Ace 9000 or Campagnolo Record??
ironman69
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Hi Again
As per the title really!
Each of these fall within my budget on a bespoke build - but which would you choose??
Where I live the hills have handrails (In the next county they have eye's!!) no let up, and I do a fair bit of fast club riding but no racing!
The Dura-Ace and Campag are the normal mechanical groupsets.
Any pointers would be more than appreciated
IM
As per the title really!
Each of these fall within my budget on a bespoke build - but which would you choose??
Where I live the hills have handrails (In the next county they have eye's!!) no let up, and I do a fair bit of fast club riding but no racing!
The Dura-Ace and Campag are the normal mechanical groupsets.
Any pointers would be more than appreciated
IM
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And that I think concludes this thread. I hope the forum advice was useful to you Ironman69
This. Makes all other gruppos look a bit pants.
Some people feel the same way about Brooks saddles and Ariones. Each to their own.
The fact is that with the new internal batteries, you would need to look twice to see if a bike had Di2. To say it destroys the look of a bike is personal taste and a bit extreme.
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Hit a pot hole and Di2 could go into safe mode for 10mins - meaning you have no gears except 39x16 or whatever it is - this has happened. Have a crash and the same thing will happen! This would be Ok when training (although might annoy your fellow riders) but in a race total disaster!
Good point about lifespan - and yes the bespoke idea is a long term idea - swaying towards the mech DA and Record
The looks of the Ultegra - Great idea to have the elec shifter etc but have to agree that looks wise the other two win hands down.
'Grill' - Is that what you went for on your WM ??
However, I would personally choose DA9000 over a Di2 setup.
Something I definitely didn't know about :shock:
Thanks
A mechanic mentioned the gear cable line from the shifter is more complex and not as smooth. Otherwise I'm tempted.
Been on the 6700 for a few years, which is ok, but nothing special. The 6600 has better shifting.
Tried the 6770 Di2 on a hire bike for a week. Lovely, but I'm still not convinced by electronic shifting, seems wrong. Also, the potential to break stuff at great expense seems high.
You don't have Di2 do you?
Have a crash - stuff breaks. No censored !
Except it doesn't. The crash protection mode is there to save the RD if it is wacked. If you dropped the bike on the RD, it will disconnect internally and suffer no damage. If you did this with your DA/Record RD, you will be buying a new one.
As for hitting a pot hole and it being disabled for 10 minutes... If you rear wheel was any where rideable after a shock hard enough to cause this, then you press and hold the button on the control unit for 5 seconds and it re-connects to the motor unit. If, that is, your wheel was not square and you had not shattered your seat stays.
So what we get from your post is that crashing with anything other than Di2 will be a minor inconvenience to your fellow riders or your race chances, but crash with Di2 and you will be forever shunned/destined to walk over finish lines. Or not, as the case may be.
Don't let that stop you spouting anti Di2 bollox, though.
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Nope. Only thing I've seen is clicking from the cassette when the lockring is over-torqued.
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This. It's been proven in some of the world's top laboratories and in front of a panel of really fit birds.
None of them – mechanical or battery operated – are a patch on Super Record though. It’s the Lynx advert of group sets.
No I don't have Di2, but I was riding with a mate last week who does - and he hit a pot hole (not that big) and it stopped working. I didn't know about holding the button for 5 secs (nor did my mate) as we had to ride home very slowly.
So are you saying the Di2 RD doesn't break like a mechanical one would?? I'm guessing it would as it's made from the same stuff. Although I've never seen a rear mech of any kind break except one that's gone into the spokes, and even Di2 wouldn't recover from that. I would rather replace a DA 9000 rear mech than a Di2 one!
Because the Ui2 is about £30 more than the DA9000?
Indeed, it's Super Record I have
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I've got both
Not sure what you're talking about... no such thing as Ui2!! :?
£30 is £30
I have 9000 mechanical, 9070 and 7970 electric.
If I was limited to one bike with one groupset, then it would be 9000 mechanical. You give very little away, if anything, in performance to electric and for me knowing I can resolve most problems on the road on a mechanical groupset is a strong point. Particularly if I am heading to the Alps for a week then I prefer mechanical, knowing a can take a small set of tools and sort out most problems.
Boo! My duffer bike has Athena.
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I would never go back to mechanical.
When travelling abroad for Alpine sportives, the electronic is as simple to finely set up. I haven't needed any extra tools. In terms of ruggedness, I have found it better than mechanical. No pot hole has put it out and I have hit a few!
The upsides - speed, smoothness, ease of gear change. No reaching around on FD changes. Multishift. No momentary change of power when changing gear.
The downside - slight additional weight. I noticed it when picking the bike up in one hand straight afer fitting but not on the bike. I think my fingers are getting chubby from lack of exercise.
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Yep, correct.
I can never see a situation where Di2 would go into the spokes, but then it shouldn't happen with any correctly adjusted mech. I diubt anything would survive such an event, even Super Record
If you wanted to change the indexing on your gears, this can be done without even stopping riding. Hit the controller button briefly and then move the index point left or right with the shift buttons. Each button press moves the rear mech 0.2mm. The manual says to adjust inboard until you hear cog/chain contact and then adjust out 4 presses. You might want to tell your mate that too.
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