Had a sit on one of these today.

Kowalski675

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/ ... durocarbon

Interesting rarity (apparently they're not importing them to the UK, it was a special order). Serious bike with a serious price tag (£7200 - which makes the US price of $9000 look almost cheap). Lovely looking thing, felt seriously plush and very light. Maybe I should start doing the lottery...

Chunkers1980

Nope, sell the motor and buy a proper bike.

benpinnick

The crazy thing is, at $9000, it's more than the sum of the parts!

Frame 3500
Xx1/x0 mix 1500
Wheels 1200
Forks 1200
Other finishing kit 1000 max probably a lot less
Total? 8400. Go figure.

Kowalski675

Chunkers1980 wrote:

Nope, sell the motor and buy a proper bike.

My car's worth less than my Carrera Kraken, lol. Fill the petrol tank to the brim and its value doubles.

Compared to the Specialized, the Nukeproof Mega TR I sat on was dirt cheap at £2699, lol...

Mr Dog

A kid on a bucket of rust could go faster than me on that beauty. With age comes wisdom..... and slowness

benpinnick

cyd190468 wrote:

benpinnick wrote:

The crazy thing is, at $9000, it's more than the sum of the parts!

Frame 3500
Xx1/x0 mix 1500
Wheels 1200
Forks 1200
Other finishing kit 1000 max probably a lot less
Total? 8400. Go figure.

Works out more if you pay retail. The brakes and the cassette are rediculous expensive.

I'd allowed 1500 for those, but even at 2000 for gears & brakes its still more expensive than its parts. This is clealy a bike aimed at morons.

swod1

benpinnick wrote:

I'd allowed 1500 for those, but even at 2000 for gears & brakes its still more expensive than its parts. This is clealy a bike aimed at morons.

A bike for people who are really into bikes and can afford it obviously.

If you can afford it, you might as well have the best.

cooldad

A lot of people mix up 'best' and 'expensive'.

benpinnick

swod1 wrote:

benpinnick wrote:

I'd allowed 1500 for those, but even at 2000 for gears & brakes its still more expensive than its parts. This is clealy a bike aimed at morons.

A bike for people who are really into bikes and can afford it obviously.

If you can afford it, you might as well have the best.

In my world paying more for the same thing is dumb, no matter how much money you have.

stubs

In the world 8 grand is small change to a some people. I know of a guy who just bought a Bentley convertible for his missus to go down to the hairdressers, 8 grand to him is probably like 8 quid to us normal wage slaves.

nferrar

Most of Specialized top-end bikes (and quite a few other manufacturers) cost more than the sum of their parts. I was looking at an s-work Roubaix a couple of years back, think was nearly £6k yet the bits added up to £4.5k

The Rookie

benpinnick wrote:

In my world paying more for the same thing is dumb, no matter how much money you have.

Unless your time saved is more valuable than the cash saving....

I don't see Alan Sugar having tme to shop around to buy the best value bike, asking an employee to do it would probably cost more than the saving as well.

lawman

It's a specialized which surely means its marketed for and ridden by morons anyway?

I have to agree it costs more than the sum of its parts but I think a lot of bikes are these days. Just pricing up a possible new build for myself and even with extra spent on carbon wheels and bling kit it'd still work out cheaper than the less well equipped stock build. For high end custom is definitely the way to go, you really can cherry pick what you prefer rather than having to shell out even more on a stock rig to get it to your liking.

sofaboy73

that seems ridiculously expensive, especially as it's not even a full carbon frame!

yes it's got XX1 drivetrain and a double barrell shock, but you could build up a a carbon nomad with XT throughout and a custom tuned shock for a couple of grand less and you wouldn't notice a whole lot of difference.

I also don't get why all these new hard hitting enduro bikes are coming with 34 forks with the 15m bolt through, imho they just don't feel stiff enough for serious enduro / am usage. for a minor weight penalty (c 180gr) you can get the 36's with 20mm bolt trhough which are noticebaly stiffer

benpinnick

The Beginner wrote:

benpinnick wrote:

In my world paying more for the same thing is dumb, no matter how much money you have.

Unless your time saved is more valuable than the cash saving....

I don't see Alan Sugar having tme to shop around to buy the best value bike, asking an employee to do it would probably cost more than the saving as well.

You don't get rich by throwing it away. How long would it take to say 'I want one like this only build it for me from parts mr bike shop keeper.'? To be clear, this is more than the RRP of those parts, not what you could build it for if you hunt round for good deals.

paul.skibum

But if you are a rich guy looking for a play thing which you probably wont use and aren't an expert on just want the BEST then walking into a shop and going I want a really effing good bike I have 10 grand left over from this weeks shopping will get you pointed in the direction of that bike as the shop looks good from their suppliers view point, makes more margin (as their is no cost associated with selling it) - sure a good shop would spec up a bike for someone in that position but you present Mr time is money with a week long wait for their bike they will go elsewhere.

I think the complete bike thing for those high ends targets a limited audience and as you say the guy who really wants a race ready enduro bike will do the full spec thing but the guy who just wants an expensive toy to boast about will buy ready built. Frame only option exists for the main audience.