Looking for some Advice on my first Full Sus MTB £600 budget

Huktonfonics
Huktonfonics Posts: 6
edited June 2013 in MTB buying advice
Howdy folks, fresh to the forums here and a lot of my Google'ing has lead me to post's on this forum, so I thought I'd take a stab at gleaming what knowledge I could from you guys here. 8)

Basically I'm looking to get my fist DH MTB for commuting and hitting some off-road / trails. As the topic states I'm looking to get my bang for my buck for about £600 so really I'm aiming for second hand. Currently I have a Voodoo Hoodoo 29'er but the bike is boring and I find it pretty awkward and clumsy when trying to do pretty much anything besides ride fast, as the thing is pretty huge, needless to say that hasn't stopped me from trying ANYTHING :oops: . Im 6'3 at about 160lbs. I like to ride hard whether on roads or cross country or blasting through woods.

Ebay'ing for last 2 weeks has bought my attention to Kona Stinky's and Specialized Enduro's / Big Hit's and also one GT DHi ( this looks like it should have batteries somewhere and no pedals :P )

1:) What would you guys recommend at this price range for my needs?

2:) Anything to lookout for on suggested bikes ? (faults / warning sign's)

3:) Recommend any websites or stores to grab a bargain ? (I hate the beast that is ebay, too much pilfering)

4:) What size would I go for for a comfortable ride ?

Thanks guys, I'll be here all week :wink:

Comments

  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    DH bikes are not for commuting or hitting trails, or even pedalling.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    What is this DH-Commuting thing that seems to be going on everywhere!?

    The worlds gone mad!..that or everyone is just very confused.
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

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  • What is this DH-Commuting thing that seems to be going on everywhere!?

    The worlds gone mad!..that or everyone is just very confused.
    cooldad wrote:
    DH bikes are not for commuting or hitting trails, or even pedalling.

    Oh, Ok let me re-iterate for my ignorance. I'll edit the post shortly in-case the MTB police raid the house :lol:

    I wont be riding down mountains.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    The bike you have is as good as it gets really! Maybe try some new tyres and parts?
  • supersonic wrote:
    The bike you have is as good as it gets really! Maybe try some new tyres and parts?

    I'd like a full suspension bike, I'm leaning towards a specialized epic 2008 or a specialized xc comp that im watching on ebay. Are these good bikes for £500-£600 ?

    Also have an eye on a specialized stumpjumper fsr pro 2009. The reason i said a DH bike is because i generally treat my mtb like a big bmx, I like doing jumps and tricks on a ride so a hard tail can kind of kick my ass. So looking for something that can take a beating when I throw it at it.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Jump bikes etc tend to be hardtails anyway. It's riding skill that stops them kicking ass, not suspension. Suspension is for traction.
    Unless you want to do full on DH, which you don't.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    A skills course may be a better investment than a bike!

    I know someone who commutes on a DH bike (8" Norco) but then he only commutes 1.5 miles on the flat!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    The Stumpy is a great bike and very playful (definitely not "boring") but if you're looking at used bikes it obviously all depends on the condition it's in...
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • So your saying a hard tail is a more enjoyable ride than a full suspension bike ? Ive rode a marin wolfridge a few times that a mate has, and i can say that i hadway more fun and it felt a lot more playful than my current hard tail and super comfy, I loved it !

    My current commute is a 16 mile round trip every day through canals, road and small trails, but I like to hit the countryside every chance I get.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    so you're basically just looking for a mountain bike? :lol:
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    cooldad wrote:
    Jump bikes etc tend to be hardtails anyway. It's riding skill that stops them kicking ass, not suspension. Suspension is for traction.
    .

    are we going into this again? can't wait :lol:

    but the OP. most modern full suss bikes can cope with what you want. the epic and fsr xc are both more cross country (xc) bikes. but northern monkey rode his epic around cwmcarn last week and I struggled to keep up :lol:
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    So your saying a hard tail is a more enjoyable ride than a full suspension bike ? Ive rode a marin wolfridge a few times that a mate has, and i can say that i hadway more fun and it felt a lot more playful than my current hard tail and super comfy, I loved it !

    .

    please don't open that can of worms :shock:

    sorry for all the posts, i'm posting then reading....should have read it all first :lol:
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    A Hardtail can be more or less fun than an FS depending on the bike, terrain and also (critically) what the rider calls fun!

    You won't be doing 16 miles a day on a DH bike but there are plenty of bikes that are FS XC->Trail orientated that seem to be suited to what you'll say you'll be doing, but there also many HT's that would do it.

    For 16 miles a day I'd get a cheap hybrid/road bike (or an old MTB and put it on slicks - my daughters commuter is an old CB Trailridge on rigid forks and slicks and cost less than £100 to put on the road!) and getting the MTB I wanted to use as an MTB!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    It’s quite simple
    Full sus are for pussies.
    29ers are for hippies.
    Single speed are for sandal wearing beared hippies.
    650B are for people who queue for the latest iPhone.
    Hardtails are for manly men.
    EOT.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    ps I ride a full sus mainly.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • kevinharley
    kevinharley Posts: 554
    cooldad wrote:
    It’s quite simple
    Full sus are for pussies.
    29ers are for hippies.
    Single speed are for sandal wearing beared hippies.
    650B are for people who queue for the latest iPhone.
    Hardtails are for manly men.EOT.
    :D
    I ride a SS Hardtail .. guess I'm a sandal wearing bearded hippy manly man then :shock: :twisted:

    (Can you get spd sandals?)
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    [:

    (Can you get spd sandals?)

    shimano did used to make them years ago :lol:

    apparently they still do

    shimano-sandal-shsd65.jpg
  • I mite be able to get a deal on a specialized epic fsr 2008 for £500. Just waiting for more detailed info from the seller who was a bit vague in his description. I hope i asked all the right questions.

    I asked if it had been serviced regularly or recently

    If there are any leaks or problems with the shocks.

    If the bike is stock.

    From the reviews Ive read they have all mostly been positive besides the odd occasion where stock parts failed.

    The only thing he mentioned is that he had a new bottom bracket fitted recently
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Only one shock and the condition of the forks is pretty important including any play in the bushes.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.