Shimano 11sp wheel fitment

mrbrightside
mrbrightside Posts: 214
edited June 2013 in Road buying advice
I'm looking for a new groupset and would like to know if 11sp will fit my wheels.

They are fulcrum racing 3's just purchased in a sale so might not be 2013 as these tend to be black an white colour.

So how do I find if the cassette will fit, I don't want to purchase the groupset only to have to sell and then buy another set of wheels.

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  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    IIRC Fulcrum 11 speed wheels have 11 speed on the freewheel.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,324
    If your current freehub requires a 1.8 mm spacer, in addition to the 10 speed spacer provided with the cassette, then it is an 11 speed freehub. If your freehub only needs the thin cassette spacer in combination with a 10 speed cassette, then it is a 9-10 speed freehub and it will NOT take 11 speed
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Get a 9 speed group set, much better.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • mrbrightside
    mrbrightside Posts: 214
    Not sure how many spacers the wheels need as I have not used or fitted them as yet. The 2013 models state shimano 10/11sp. There no build date etc on the paperwork.

    I will however take a look at the hub
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,324
    MrBrightside wrote:
    Not sure how many spacers the wheels need as I have not used or fitted them as yet. The 2013 models state shimano 10/11sp. There no build date etc on the paperwork.

    I will however take a look at the hub

    If they are 10/11, they will come with a 1.8 mm spacer... no spacer means they are 8-10 speed
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  • mrbrightside
    mrbrightside Posts: 214
    Nothing on the free hub indicates. Ugo do you know what width hub takes 11 speed if I measure it?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,324
    MrBrightside wrote:
    Nothing on the free hub indicates. Ugo do you know what width hub takes 11 speed if I measure it?

    No, but let me see... a Shimano 9 speed cassette is 36.5 so the freehub should be just under that for an 8-10 speed one... an 11 should be just over 38 mm from the edge to the point where the splines become retainers

    Is it not easier to just fit a 10 speed cassette on with the spacer? If it is loose it is an 11 speed, otherwise it is 8-10
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    MrBrightside wrote:
    Nothing on the free hub indicates. Ugo do you know what width hub takes 11 speed if I measure it?

    If its the same as the Campag ones they have written 11 speed on the Freehub Body if I recall correctly, I've definitely seen in on two sets of Zondas.
  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    Here is my 11 speed Fulcrum freewheel:
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  • mrbrightside
    mrbrightside Posts: 214
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!
  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    MrBrightside wrote:
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!

    You can get replacement 11 speed free hubs from iride.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,324
    Rick Draper wrote:
    MrBrightside wrote:
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!

    You can get replacement 11 speed free hubs from iride.

    That was my thought too... but will they fit? You fit a freehub which is nearly 2 mm wider, then the dropouts distance becomes 132... unless there are some spacers in the 10 speed one that can be removed
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  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rick Draper wrote:
    MrBrightside wrote:
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!

    You can get replacement 11 speed free hubs from iride.

    That was my thought too... but will they fit? You fit a freehub which is nearly 2 mm wider, then the dropouts distance becomes 132... unless there are some spacers in the 10 speed one that can be removed

    I converted my Zero's, they just needed a new freehub body and became no wider. I think its just more machining to the inside of the body to move the cassette in towards the driveside spokes maybe.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,324
    Rick Draper wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rick Draper wrote:
    MrBrightside wrote:
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!

    You can get replacement 11 speed free hubs from iride.

    That was my thought too... but will they fit? You fit a freehub which is nearly 2 mm wider, then the dropouts distance becomes 132... unless there are some spacers in the 10 speed one that can be removed

    I converted my Zero's, they just needed a new freehub body and became no wider. I think its just more machining to the inside of the body to move the cassette in towards the driveside spokes maybe.

    No, otherwise the chain would touch the spokes... maybe the outward freehub bearing has been pushed inwards so the cap slots deeper inside the freehub... something like that, I would think
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  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rick Draper wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Rick Draper wrote:
    MrBrightside wrote:
    35mm free hub, thanks for your help Ugo.

    Brand new wheels possibly redundant, this could be expensive!

    You can get replacement 11 speed free hubs from iride.

    That was my thought too... but will they fit? You fit a freehub which is nearly 2 mm wider, then the dropouts distance becomes 132... unless there are some spacers in the 10 speed one that can be removed

    I converted my Zero's, they just needed a new freehub body and became no wider. I think its just more machining to the inside of the body to move the cassette in towards the driveside spokes maybe.

    No, otherwise the chain would touch the spokes... maybe the outward freehub bearing has been pushed inwards so the cap slots deeper inside the freehub... something like that, I would think

    No its definitely done the way I said, I have the other freehub body here in front of me and the inner retainers are noticeably further out than on the 11 speed one above :wink:

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