Cancellara missing the Tour

inseine
inseine Posts: 5,788
edited July 2013 in Pro race
The worlds TT should be a good battle with Canc, Wiggins and martin.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    Will Cancellara even bother with the TT? He hasn't given a toss about TTs for a couple of years now. It's tbe Road Race that he's interested in.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Yup - I suspect he won't be bothered with TT.

    Road Race looks like his kind of thing if he's on form

    Chinny vs Sagan v.autumn
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    No point in Canc going for TT if either Wiggo or Martin are even at 90%.

    He wants the rainbow in the RR.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Daz555 wrote:
    No point in Canc going for TT if either Wiggo or Martin are even at 90%.

    He wants the rainbow in the RR.

    Obvious really :oops:
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    That's a shame. They're a bit of a mess heading into the Tour.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Bit disappointed.

    Love chinny. I like him at the Tour.
    _
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    iainf72 wrote:
    Yup - I suspect he won't be bothered with TT.

    Road Race looks like his kind of thing if he's on form

    Chinny vs Sagan v.autumn
    There's going to be nine Colombians there who are going to be as easy to control as a class of primary school kids after a Sunny Delight drinking contest.

    Right here, right now, I'm predicting a Colombian World Champ.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    RichN95 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Yup - I suspect he won't be bothered with TT.

    Road Race looks like his kind of thing if he's on form

    Chinny vs Sagan v.autumn
    There's going to be nine Colombians there who are going to be as easy to control as a class of primary school kids after a Sunny Delight drinking contest.

    Right here, right now, I'm predicting a Colombian World Champ.

    Would be fun to get an outsider win it, out of the Colombians you'd have to fancy Uran.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    RichN95 wrote:
    There's going to be nine Colombians there who are going to be as easy to control as a class of primary school kids after a Sunny Delight drinking contest.

    Wonderful! And your prediction is a pretty good shout too.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,479
    inkyfingers wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Yup - I suspect he won't be bothered with TT.

    Road Race looks like his kind of thing if he's on form

    Chinny vs Sagan v.autumn
    There's going to be nine Colombians there who are going to be as easy to control as a class of primary school kids after a Sunny Delight drinking contest.

    Right here, right now, I'm predicting a Colombian World Champ.

    Would be fun to get an outsider win it, out of the Colombians you'd have to fancy Uran.

    To win or receive cash to the value of?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,479
    No reason for Cancellara to go to the Tour. No Prologue, unlikely to get in yellow and no GC leader to work for.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TailWindHome wrote:
    No reason for Cancellara to go to the Tour. No Prologue, unlikely to get in yellow and no GC leader to work for.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNLMYpr2TM
    _
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,479
    edited June 2013
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    No reason for Cancellara to go to the Tour. No Prologue, unlikely to get in yellow and no GC leader to work for.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNLMYpr2TM


    What a great clip, requiring some suspension of disbelief, but great all the same.

    From before I got back into cycling in recent years....

    Without looking at the profiles in any detail it seems like 3 sprints and a TTT to start.

    That looks like Cav to lead the tour from day one and try to keep up with Der Panzerwagen on stage 4.

    An oversimplification?


    EDIT Having just looked up the 2007 on wiki it seems it started with a prologue, won by Cancellara, giving him yellow until the mountains ---- just his sort of Tour. (presumably he worked for Sastre thereafter)
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,747
    Agree with both TWH and Rick really...

    Always good to see him, but no reason to be there whatsoever. (Bit of a point made to the RSNT/Leopard/Schleck management too)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    edited June 2013
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    No reason for Cancellara to go to the Tour. No Prologue, unlikely to get in yellow and no GC leader to work for.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNLMYpr2TM
    What a great clip, requiring some suspension of disbelief, but great all the same.
    I don't think it requires any suspension of disbelief. The sprint was completely disorganised (I can't remember why) which makes something like this possible (especially which a group to bridge to).

    Back in the 80s before sprint trains were the norm, there used to be a rider called Jelle Nijdam who used to specialise in doing exactly the same thing - attacking with about 1km to go. (And like Cancellara he was a cracking prologue rider)
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    For those that use Martin as the Wiggins yard(wank)stick ... A motivated Fab would leave them looking considerably Mickey Mouse ...

    It's all about the challenge ... Fab was one corner away from single handedly winning the Olympic Gold ... No team, no nonsense, just a marked man showing his legs ...

    Wiggins is 3rd rate in proper cycling terms, deal with it and move on ...
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    I didn't realise we were discussing Wiggins?

    Anyway, do we think Cancellara can hack it in the Worlds this year, isn't it more suited to somebody like Nibali? Looking at the course i'd say the latter, but the Fabs has ridden well on other, tough Worlds courses in the past and if he makes something a target then he has a habit of achieving it.
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Anyway, do we think Cancellara can hack it in the Worlds this year, isn't it more suited to somebody like Nibali? Looking at the course i'd say the latter, but the Fabs has ridden well on other, tough Worlds courses in the past and if he makes something a target then he has a habit of achieving it.

    I think it's going to be pretty tough for him given that what Rich said about controlling the race is right. I think the peloton will be split up all over the place and given that he won't have a particularly strong team he'll have his work cut out. I wouldn't put it past him though.
  • welshmessenger
    welshmessenger Posts: 298
    Says more about the state of RSNT than anything else. Shame tho.

    As others have said I wouldn't put the worlds past him, but surely that climb is too long? 4k or so isn't it? He'll need to lose a couple of kilo's.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    welshmessenger wrote:
    Says more about the state of RSNT than anything else. Shame tho.

    As others have said I wouldn't put the worlds past him, but surely that climb is too long? 4k or so isn't it? He'll need to lose a couple of kilo's.

    Interesting tweet from vetooo on Cancellara's plans. Not sure of his source.

    vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 1h
    Fabian Cancellara will participate in Tour of Pologne, Vuelta a España and World Champs. His big target is to break the world hour record.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,704
    DeadCalm wrote:
    welshmessenger wrote:
    Says more about the state of RSNT than anything else. Shame tho.

    As others have said I wouldn't put the worlds past him, but surely that climb is too long? 4k or so isn't it? He'll need to lose a couple of kilo's.

    Interesting tweet from vetooo on Cancellara's plans. Not sure of his source.

    vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 1h
    Fabian Cancellara will participate in Tour of Pologne, Vuelta a España and World Champs. His big target is to break the world hour record.

    Though as others have pointed out on Twitter, he's been saying he's going to give it a go for years without actually doing anything about it.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    welshmessenger wrote:
    Says more about the state of RSNT than anything else. Shame tho.

    As others have said I wouldn't put the worlds past him, but surely that climb is too long? 4k or so isn't it? He'll need to lose a couple of kilo's.

    Interesting tweet from vetooo on Cancellara's plans. Not sure of his source.

    vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 1h
    Fabian Cancellara will participate in Tour of Pologne, Vuelta a España and World Champs. His big target is to break the world hour record.

    Though as others have pointed out on Twitter, he's been saying he's going to give it a go for years without actually doing anything about it.

    I've seen him quoted before along the lines of 'one day I'd like to take a crack at that'. I don't think he's ever described it as his main target before (if indeed he has now) and frankly, if he doesn't do it soon, he never will.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,581
    Wasn't he going to win Olympic Gold in the pursuit at the Beijing Olympics, only to discover that he wasn't actually competitive when he had a go at riding a pursuit?
  • chrisday
    chrisday Posts: 300
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancell ... our-record
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    andyp wrote:
    Wasn't he going to win Olympic Gold in the pursuit at the Beijing Olympics, only to discover that he wasn't actually competitive when he had a go at riding a pursuit?
    Indeed. No-one was ever going to get close to Wiggo in 2008 anyway.
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  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    andyp wrote:
    Wasn't he going to win Olympic Gold in the pursuit at the Beijing Olympics, only to discover that he wasn't actually competitive when he had a go at riding a pursuit?
    I think I've heard Chris Boardman (or maybe Hugh Porter) say that when Cancellara tried riding the boards he really struggled. I guess if you've not grown up doing it as a junior it must be quite weird riding on a banked wooden oval on a fixie.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    chrisday wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-to-tackle-hour-record
    Nice.

    Come on Wiggo, beat him to it!
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    FJS wrote:
    chrisday wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-to-tackle-hour-record
    Nice.

    Come on Wiggo, beat him to it!

    Haven't you heard, Wiggins is finished.

    Seriously though, a Wiggins/Cancellara battle would have the potential to make the hour record a matter of real interest again.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    inkyfingers wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    chrisday wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-to-tackle-hour-record
    Nice.

    Come on Wiggo, beat him to it!

    Haven't you heard, Wiggins is finished.

    Seriously though, a Wiggins/Cancellara battle would have the potential to make the hour record a matter of real interest again.

    And the Panzer.
    _
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    FJS wrote:
    chrisday wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-to-tackle-hour-record
    Nice.

    Come on Wiggo, beat him to it!

    Haven't you heard, Wiggins is finished.

    Seriously though, a Wiggins/Cancellara battle would have the potential to make the hour record a matter of real interest again.

    And the Panzer.

    He'd be too busy winning all the TTs on the road while the other two have their eye off the ball.
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