ENVE Compact Road bar/stem – £530

ju5t1n

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... m-13-47293

Can anyone justify the cost of these?

I like the comment BTW, v-good

pippi_langsamer-2

Gives a whole new meaning to "Peni$ Enve"

iPete

FLOL

If I was spending that kind of money I'd want a work of art.. something from Cinelli

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ftw ... o1_500.jpg

bernithebiker

Jesus Christ, £530???

I was expecting to see some kind of divine, organic one piece carbon thing.

That's just a stem and bars, and not particularly good looking either.

If they feel happy overcharging for stuff like that you have to wonder about their wheels.......some of the most expensive out there.

And yes the ends do look like willies, (not mine though, I'm more 31.8 than 26.........)

nferrar

I don't think 99% of people here can justify spending more than £700 on a bike, doesn't mean that's all we should spend though. If I had a decent budget and was putting together my dream bike they'd certainly be on my short-list. I have no clue what margin they make on them but it's not the same as someone just importing generic carbon bars from Taiwan, re-branding them and putting a 300% mark-up on them. They invest a lot of money designing and testing their products and they're made is small runs not churned out by the thousand. Is the slightly better end product worth all that extra hassle and cost? Not to me but it obviously is for some people

napoleond

They look cack. The stem is chunky in a bad way and inelegant, the bar ends look rather amusing.

bernithebiker

nferrar wrote:

I don't think 99% of people here can justify spending more than £700 on a bike, doesn't mean that's all we should spend though. If I had a decent budget and was putting together my dream bike they'd certainly be on my short-list. I have no clue what margin they make on them but it's not the same as someone just importing generic carbon bars from Taiwan, re-branding them and putting a 300% mark-up on them. They invest a lot of money designing and testing their products and they're made is small runs not churned out by the thousand. Is the slightly better end product worth all that extra hassle and cost? Not to me but it obviously is for some people

I have no problem with spending lots of money on a bike part that is genuinely worth a lot of money, but this little set up clearly is NOT worth that amount of money, and anyone parting with that amount of cash for a pretty standard stem and bar needs their head looking at.

racingcondor

I'm not defending the price which really is pretty eye watering but you are looking at what is probably the brand that pushes the envelope in the right way so they can charge £££ with justification (look at the rims, £750 EACH but the only rims on the market that can lay reasonable claim to being better than Zipp).

Personally I'll continue to do what I do now and buy something else... Anyone who wants to send me some of their rims to 'test for a few '000 miles' is welcome to though... ;-)

giant_man

yum ....

dennisn

www.fairwheelbikes.com

These guys sell bunches of stuff like that. I guess it's all about how much disposable income you have.

meesterbond

Carbon stems in general seem to be tremendously poor value for money... I was looking at replacing the 3T Pro (Alloy) stem with a 3T Ltd (carbon) version - the cost difference is >£150, the weight saving ~20g with no discernable difference in performance...

sloppyschleckonds

It's not just about the weight though

Grill

Still cheaper than AX Lightness

My bar/stem weigh the same and were much cheaper. Be even lighter if I cared about carbon bars.

vfast1

And it only gets 3 stars!

mambo1

So what bar stem combo does it better for less?

napoleond

mambo1 wrote:

So what bar stem combo does it better for less?

Deda RHM bars and zero 1 stem. For 500 quid less.

Mccaria

Guilty as charged. Damn just realised I've fessed up to an old thread !

As an alternative the Deda Superleggera/Superleggero combo is actually lighter and works just as well. Bars and stem together at Ribble are about £250. Still expensive, but considerably cheaper than the Enve.

thegreatdivide

Zero 100 bars and Superleggero stem for my C59 viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=12962249

dennisn

mambo1 wrote:

So what bar stem combo does it better for less?

Better? :?
It's a bar and stem. :roll:

ugo.santalucia

DOn't bother, you'll spend the rest of your days worrying about the calibration of your torque wrench... life is too short...

sungod

frankenthread back from the grave, but before vtech chips in and it turns into a great big solid egg of f...

stuff is priced based upon cost to produce and distribute, and then what the market will bear

if you can't afford it, big deal

if you can afford it, big deal

the price is the price, accept that, move on

DavidJB

Why do the bar ends look like bellends.

Miles253

iPete wrote:

FLOL

If I was spending that kind of money I'd want a work of art.. something from Cinelli

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ftw ... o1_500.jpg

That cinelli number is badass! Looks so nice. Lucky I could never drop £500 on bars and a stem

matt-h

thegreatdivide wrote:

Zero 100 bars and Superleggero stem for my C59 viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=12962249

I have the same on my focus

rolf_f

Deda Superleggero Stem and Superleggera bars - 279g. I paid about £200 for that so that's over £300 extra to carry 50g more weight around. ENVE certainly have a sense of humour. I thought the idea was you pay absurd amounts of money to save weight - not to add it!