First time - Rockhopper or Hardrock?

daryl-
daryl- Posts: 10
edited June 2013 in MTB buying advice
Hi there,

Looking to get into MTB again after doing a bit when i was younger. Looking to do mostly trail stuff and downhill when possible.

Seen both the Rockhopper and the Hardrock Sport Disc and was curious whether or not the Rockhopper was worth the extra £100 or whether i was simply paying for the name?

Rockhopper: http://m.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/rockhopper-2013-mountain-bike-ec042244
Hardrock: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/hardrock-sport-disc-2013-mountain-bike-ec040961

Thanks in advance,
Daryl

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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    They are the same brand!

    I'd say the rockhopper is worth the extra 100
  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    Ha! I meant paying for the better 'model make' as the options were better Hardrock or the bottom edition Rockhopper.

    But thanks for the reply, appreciate it
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    You could do much better for less money. See the sticky at the top of the Buying Advice section.
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  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    edited June 2013
    Thanks for the reply.

    I did have a little look at the sticky prior to posting which is where I saw the Hardrock after recognising the Specialized brand, I then went on to see the Rockhopper. As i am new to this game, i am unsure whether you get what you pay for?

    According to the sticky, these are the options suggested for a £600 ish budget: (cheapest first)
    Genesis CORE 00
    Specialized Hardrock Pro
    Merlin MALT1
    GT Avalanche 1.0
    Commencal Combi Disc

    But i was unsure whether you pay for the brand or whether you do get a better bike if you pay more? So out of those, is the Commencal Combi Disk the best one as it costs the most?

    Thanks for your time,
    Daryl

    Edit: After looking at another Sticky, the
    Carrera Vulcan
    Decathlon Rockrider
    Trek 4500D

    are also recommended for under £600 if they are better than the models mentioned above.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    that's the sticky you should have been looking at. I think the Hardrock is listed in a 2009 section.

    Seems like the Rockrider is the bike that is always recommended at this price point. Far out-specs nearly all other bikes of the same price tbh
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  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    Thanks for your input. I've checked it out and the reviews seem good - much like you said, get a lot for your money.

    Thanks again
  • rockmonkeysc
    rockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    I had a Hardrock, it hasn't really changed in the last four or five years so it's still crap. For some reason it always used to win MBUK budget bike tests.
  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    Ha. Thank for the tip.

    I think im going down the route of the Rockrider as everyone seems to be raving about how much bike you get for little money.

    Cheers
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Rockrider 8.1 - £550, you'd be paying about £800 for a spesh to the same spec.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    Nice to know, thanks!

    How comes they can make them/sell them for so cheap then?
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    No big marketing spend, and as Decathlon have stores all across Europe they are selling 1000's all to the same spec, volume = lower parts prices (from Shimano/SRAM etc).

    Much like a similar spec Carrera is much cheaper than a Hardrock depsite being made by the same people in the same factory.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • daryl-
    daryl- Posts: 10
    Valid point i suppose!

    Thanks for the help.