LBS Dissing Cube Frames

alesupper

I have been in my LBS to look at and discuss 29ers a couple of times and on both occasions the staff there have put me off Cube bikes (pushing me towards Treks or Whytes) because they say that they don't put much effort into the design of their frames, but make their bikes look good by putting good components on them.

Now I find this strange because:-

a) They are a Cube resellers so if they think that about their frames why do they sell them in the first place?
b) I have a Cube Reaction Pro hardtail and think it is a great bike.

I have only owned one MTB so I am not very experienced in this area so I wondered what people thought about Cube bikes? Is there any truth in what the LBS staff are saying or is it just that they make more profit on the Treks/Whytes?

Cheers.

supersonic

They are talking bs, find a better shop.

alesupper

Thanks, I thought as much.

supersonic wrote:

They are talking bs, find a better shop.

pastey_boy

alesupper wrote:

Thanks, I thought as much.

supersonic wrote:

They are talking bs, find a better shop.

Does the shops name rhyme with "Mealface" ?

alesupper

Indeed it does. Have you had the same thing?

pastey_boy wrote:

alesupper wrote:

Thanks, I thought as much.

supersonic wrote:

They are talking bs, find a better shop.

Does the shops name rhyme with "Mealface" ?

pastey_boy

alesupper wrote:

Indeed it does. Have you had the same thing?

pastey_boy wrote:

alesupper wrote:

Thanks, I thought as much.

supersonic wrote:

They are talking bs, find a better shop.

Does the shops name rhyme with "Mealface" ?

Not myself but a friend went in there and had his head filed with nonsense .

The Rookie

Why not arm yourself with lots of facts and figurse and reviews and then when they claim this call their BS out publicly, make sure the shop is full when you start.

I guess they have a lower margin on Cubes!

alesupper

Life is too short! I just won't by my bike from them.

The Beginner wrote:

Why not arm yourself with lots of facts and figurse and reviews and then when they claim this call their BS out publicly, make sure the shop is full when you start.

I guess they have a lower margin on Cubes!

lostboysaint

The Beginner wrote:

I guess they have a lower margin on Cubes!

That.

plasma_man

Latest Review in MBR puts the Cube ltd pro at the bottom of the pile, mainly due to a terrible rigid bone shaking frame and poor fork. Maybe they read the review and use it to shift bikes that may be harder to sell.

I have 2013 ltd sl 29 and love it, I can't related any of the negative comments mbr made to my bike so either the crap fork brings the whole bike down or they are talking bs...or are extremely nit picky? Comments like "having to climb out the saddle it's so uncomfortable" I really don't believe any of it.

Not sure what the general thoughts about mbr reviews are, but I bet there is a copy lying in the shop!

Kowalski675

My LBS sell Cube (amongst others) and while they've not actually slagged them off, two of the guys I've spoken to there were both of the opinion that, while well specced, when it comes to frame and suspension linkage design, the Cubes are lagging behind manufacturers like Giant or Trek, with designs that aren't as supple (particularly in the first part of the suspension's stroke). They didn't say don't buy one, but (at a price point of around £1500 and above) their opinion was definitely to look toward other manufacturers. I've never ridden one, so wouldn't know myself.

hoathy

Whyte are famed for making excellent bikes, and while they make some lower end stuff now, their frame designs have generally been cutting edge. In my opinion Cube are a fine manufacturer but lack the edge of certain brands, but then I also feel like that about trek...

Sheppy

My LBS also stocked Cube and others, when I was buying a FS 29er just over a year ago they said Cube were good, but not as good as Giant. They also said the difference was in the suppleness of the first part of the suspension stroke on the rear. Seems to be a fairly consistent message. Perhaps it's a Giant conspiracy Sorry, I'll get my coat...

supersonic

Same message I hear about Halfords, Decathlong etc - some dealers don't like the cheaper brands stealing the big brands thunder and margins.

slindborg

One of my lbs's also slammed cubes and even said they were not selling them anymore.

They also sold whites and specialized....
Even had a lbs slate cube and they didnt even sell them, but they were trying to flog poor spec meridas instead

Maybe I will put a cube back on my list,

alesupper

Well I have been very happy with my Cube Reaction Pro. The only problem I have had was with the freehub and that was replaced under warranty.

slindborg wrote:

One of my lbs's also slammed cubes and even said they were not selling them anymore.

They also sold whites and specialized....
Even had a lbs slate cube and they didnt even sell them, but they were trying to flog poor spec meridas instead

Maybe I will put a cube back on my list,

matt@theforce

I loved my Cube.. Wish I didn't have to sell it.

Having said that Cube's appear to be getting more expensive and the Merida's taking over Cubes value for money

alesupper

Thanks to everyone for there input into this subject. Having already owned a Cube I bit the bullet and bought another.

http://www.cube.eu/en/hard/cross-countr ... sl-29-red/

Going into the Lakes on it tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it.

tarbot18

Had this from my lbs dissing any brand that wasnt giant ie they only sell giant bikes , even dissing my £1200 gt sensor 4 as a budget bike when as stock it was better specced than their trance x4 , wouldnt mind but they where doing a job on it at the time .
needless to say when looking at 29er s recently they tried to steer me towards a talon 1 for a grand which cant match the spec of my £750 boardman comp 29er plus i put hope wheels on so have a far better bike for a grand .

it doesnt matter about the name on it just the spec and hopefully that it looks good so you wash it occsionally !

matt@theforce

alesupper wrote:

Thanks to everyone for there input into this subject. Having already owned a Cube I bit the bullet and bought another.

http://www.cube.eu/en/hard/cross-countr ... sl-29-red/

Going into the Lakes on it tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it.

That looks stunning. You can't beat the Cube styling.

Enjoy your ride today

stubs

This is why the last bike I bought in a shop was in 2004.

alesupper

Thanks very much. We did a cracking 25 miler in the Lakes around Ambleside/Landale area and the 29er was brilliant I have to say

matt@theforce wrote:

That looks stunning. You can't beat the Cube styling.

Enjoy your ride today

njee20

Must say I've heard a few people (including folk given the bike for free) saying that the Cube frames left a little to be desired. They do look good on paper, but it's interesting to know.

steviecapt

just goes to show op, you shouldnt listen to the bs given out in some bike shops, i had the same problem when i bought my boardman, salesman in other shops slagging off halfords and boardman bikes, had the last laugh though 2 weeks after buying the boardman bike i took it to the shop who had priviously slagged them off to buy new pedals, i then asked the salesman to explain to me why the specialized bike he was trying to sell me was better than my boardman, he soon shut up lol, especially when i told him the price i got it for, the moral of this story is so long as the bike fits you and your happy with it who cares what names on the frame or what other people think, you would always get better advice on here than from any bike shop salesmen.btw good looking bike, hope you enjoy it lol

njee20

you would always get better advice on here than from any bike shop salesmen

Err... steady on there. Pretty much everyone here (see also other forums/mates/family) will just say their bike is the best, if they liked another bike more they'd have bought it, and much of the advice is just plain wrong! Plenty of regurgitated opinion passed off as fact too.

It's a reasonable source of information here, but as with any other source I'd treat any of it with a pinch of salt.

steviecapt

depends what they say about thier bikes and how much you want to spend, i,d much rather listen to people who actually own the bike i,m interested in rather than a salesman trying to flog me the stock they have in at the time lol

Twelly

I have a Cube hardtail. I have ridden many other budget hardtails - couple of Carreras, Couple of Konas, Specialized etc. My Cube is different. I think better, some may not. It's definitely a lot more lively and twitchy and needs a bit more concentration. You could either say it is a) more fun, promotes better riding, more nimble or b) less comfortable, harder to ride, unforgiving. Depends if you are thinking positively or negatively.

As with all Cubes, the spec is hard to fault though, nothing came close when I was looking at all the other options for my budget.

Kowalski675

njee20 wrote:

Plenty of regurgitated opinion passed off as fact too.

That's the internet for you, not just on here, lol...