Single speed Rigid, I cant believe what I have been missing!

bennett_346

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

My sentiments exactly.
Dirt jumpers and slopstylzzorzzz riders are (I hope I'm not insulting your skills by making assumptions here) probably better at riding jumps than you are. BMX riders too, and 4X riders.
They stick almost exclusively to hardtails.

I could explain, or I could just leave it at that.

So why do they run front suspension? Like i've said, this sport is a hobby to me, i like to run suspension for comfort, not just traction. Makes it more enjoyable and less taxing on my body, particularly on drops and jumps.

YeehaaMcgee

For traction on the front. Suspension is actually detrimental on a jump bike.
you should try riding a rigid, or a BMX bike, or even hardtail, and hit some dropoffs. You won't notice a difference once you're over kerb sized drops.
the rest of the time? Yeah, I abhor rigids. I rode them for enough years to not wish their return. That doesn't mean I didn't have fun on them though. And it's not as though dropoffs suddenly appeared with the advent of suspension.

bennett_346

I know you don't need suspension for it, that's why BMXs exist, but it batters the hell out of you absorbing every big impact with your body and that's no fun to me. That's the point i'm getting at.

YeehaaMcgee

No, you're blabbering. You're not making a point. You are however, missing the point.

bennett_346

You're right, i'm completely missing the point. No idea what you're on about anymore.

What's so hard to understand about suspension = more comfort?

YeehaaMcgee

bennett_346 wrote:

You're right, i'm completely missing the point. No idea what you're on about anymore.

What's so hard to understand about suspension = more comfort?

Nothing.
I just pointed out...

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

BrindleScoops wrote:

a simple rigid bike is more than adequate to get you going on unless you want to be straight into big drops

Suspension isn't there for drops.

Then you went batsh1t.

bennett_346

Eh whatever i'm not sure you understand how a conversation or debate works. I'd love to see you try to push a motion in government. You'd certainly earn the title of member of parliament.

YeehaaMcgee

Quite the glass house you've got there. Why are you so butthurt about learning what suspension is for? Why turn a passing comment into a personal attack? Why even try and debate something that's just a fact?
Or, are you just trolling? That seems the only logical conclusion.

Anonymous

had a rigid with zero suspension

now I've got a hard tail never had so much fun off road. probably going to get a full sus when I have things sorted out a bit more

a think full sus is best for jumps front suspension is gr8 for jumps and drops. but you really need something at the back otherwise its bad new for your groin if you sitting down or standing over the saddle. when going down lumps and over jumps. going down drops on my hardtail is fine for the front where the suspension is the back jus bounces off and doesn't really absorb the impact as well hence the need for a full suspension

cooldad

Seriously - you need suspension for your groin whilst sitting down over jumps? There is so much confusion in your post.

bennett_346

andrewgrundill wrote:

had a rigid with zero suspension

now I've got a hard tail never had so much fun off road. probably going to get a full sus when I have things sorted out a bit more

a think full sus is best for jumps front suspension is gr8 for jumps and drops. but you really need something at the back otherwise its bad new for your groin if you sitting down or standing over the saddle. when going down lumps and over jumps. going down drops on my hardtail is fine for the front where the suspension is the back jus bounces off and doesn't really absorb the impact as well hence the need for a full suspension

Well no, there's no need for full suspension. It makes it more comfy but that's it...

batmo

That's a full suspension bike in my avatar, believe it or not.

It ain't for jumps...

brindlescoops

Flippin heck, I wish I had kept my mouth shut now!

YeehaaMcgee

Nah, enjoy it by all means, I just wanted to correct the minor, but very common misconception.
(you're still a sicko for enjoying rigid though )

welshkev

andrewgrundill wrote:

had a rigid with zero suspension

now I've got a hard tail never had so much fun off road. probably going to get a full sus when I have things sorted out a bit more

a think full sus is best for jumps front suspension is gr8 for jumps and drops. but you really need something at the back otherwise its bad new for your groin if you sitting down or standing over the saddle. when going down lumps and over jumps. going down drops on my hardtail is fine for the front where the suspension is the back jus bounces off and doesn't really absorb the impact as well hence the need for a full suspension

I don't want to get into an argument, but that is utter crap. i'm guessing you haven't been riding long? :?

if you're doing jumps or drops, then the best thing to do is drop the saddle. you don't have to/always have time. but as I've stated else where I ride a hardtail as my do it all bike. and I ride everything on it no problem. i'm not saying any other bike is bad. you just don't 'need' suspension as you've stated. it's all to do with learning to ride the right lines if you're rear end is just bouncing all over the place (I mean on the bike )

and full suspension isn't best for jumps. I have a hardtail jump bike with only 80mm of travel on the forks

Woodmonkey

Pogo sticks have suspension and they are good for jumps, ever tried a rigid pogo stick?

YeehaaMcgee

Pogo sticks don't have dampers.

Cheesemanpaul

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

Quite the glass house you've got there. Why are you so butthurt about learning what suspension is for? Why turn a passing comment into a personal attack? Why even try and debate something that's just a fact?
Or, are you just trolling? That seems the only logical conclusion.

Brilliant mate