Canyon or RADON?

ukface
ukface Posts: 7
edited May 2013 in MTB buying advice
Hello everyone I'm going to be treating myself (birthday present) to a new bike. I've not had one for over 15 years & can't believe how technical they've become. :shock:

I've narrowed my choices down to http://www.radon-bikes.de/xist4c/web/ZR ... 22276_.htm
Or http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes ... tml?b=3006

As I like both bikes (although the canyon is out of stock), & they seem to have similar parts could the experts on here tell me which one they'd pick.

Thanks for taking the time to look. :wink:

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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Six and two threes.
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  • chez_m356
    chez_m356 Posts: 1,893
    ukface wrote:
    Hello everyone I'm going to be treating myself (birthday present) to a new bike. I've not had one for over 15 years & can't believe how technical they've become. :shock:

    I've narrowed my choices down to http://www.radon-bikes.de/xist4c/web/ZR ... 22276_.htm
    Or http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes ... tml?b=3006

    As I like both bikes (although the canyon is out of stock), & they seem to have similar parts could the experts on here tell me which one they'd pick.

    Thanks for taking the time to look. :wink:
    by out of stock, do you mean sold out, if its the size S your looking at, sold out means sold out, unlikely they will be any more, so that should narrow your choice to one
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  • ukface
    ukface Posts: 7
    OK thanks for that, I did notice on the canyon site that it says to call the hotline so just assumed that you'd have to wait several weeks for a bike. I think I'll be ordering the Radon.

    Does anyone here know if the brakes on the Radon come the right way round? As on the site it shows them the other way. If not is it relatively easy to do.
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Depends if they are flip flop
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    They don't but it's not a problem to swap hoses, although I seem to remember someone saying they do send them over UK style.
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  • ukface
    ukface Posts: 7
    Ok thanks for the info cooldad, hopefully will find out soon enough once I place order.
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    ukface wrote:
    Does anyone here know if the brakes on the Radon come the right way round? As on the site it shows them the other way. If not is it relatively easy to do.

    Most of the pics on Canyon's website show brakes the wrong way round too, but seems they know we Brits prefer them the right way round and do them that way for UK bikes.

    I thought Radon was a washing powder, lol. Every day I come across yet another brand of MTB I've not seen before, they seem to be never ending.
  • ukface
    ukface Posts: 7
    Kowalski675 wrote:
    ukface wrote:
    Does anyone here know if the brakes on the Radon come the right way round? As on the site it shows them the other way. If not is it relatively easy to do.

    Most of the pics on Canyon's website show brakes the wrong way round too, but seems they know we Brits prefer them the right way round and do them that way for UK bikes.

    I thought Radon was a washing powder, lol. Every day I come across yet another brand of MTB I've not seen before, they seem to be never ending.


    You mean I'm going to be the only one here ordering one of there bikes! well I don't mind been the guinea pig. :wink:
  • Greer_
    Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    I'm surprised more people don't have them - the spec is brilliant!
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  • chez_m356
    chez_m356 Posts: 1,893
    ukface wrote:
    You mean I'm going to be the only one here ordering one of there bikes! well I don't mind been the guinea pig. :wink:
    there have been a few people on here that have bought radons, search.php?keywords=radon&fid%5B0%5D=10017
        but like "Greer" says
      Greer_ wrote:
      I'm surprised more people don't have them - the spec is brilliant!
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    • geomickb
      geomickb Posts: 147
      Im currently torn between:
      http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes ... tml?b=3006
      and
      http://www.radon-bikes.de/xist4c/web/ZR ... 22276_.htm

      I really want to buy from my LBS but nothing gets close to the spec.
    • Greer_
      Greer_ Posts: 1,716
      geomickb wrote:
      Im currently torn between:
      http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes ... tml?b=3006
      and
      http://www.radon-bikes.de/xist4c/web/ZR ... 22276_.htm

      I really want to buy from my LBS but nothing gets close to the spec.

      That a question?! I love the look of the canyon, and if I was getting a 29er I'd probably pick that, but the radon is brilliant VFM and has nice brakes.
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    • geomickb
      geomickb Posts: 147
      Yes, it is a question.

      I am not hearing good things about those Avid 1's
    • Greer_
      Greer_ Posts: 1,716
      Certainly wouldn't be my pick of brakes - but I wouldn't choose avid though. The rest of the bike is stunning though IMO!
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    • Shackster
      Shackster Posts: 257
      The brakes could decide this on their own - SLX on the radon get nothing but praise, Elixir 1s (well avid generally), er, don't. I had near top of the range elixirs on my Canyon and binned them (well, sold them :D ) within a couple of months.
      2011 Canyon XC 8.0 (Monza Race Red)
      1996(?) dyna-tech titanium HT; pace RC-35's; Hope Ti Hubs etc etc
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    • slindborg
      slindborg Posts: 98
      What is wrong with avid elixirs then? Anything genuine, or just people finding a small niggle that gets amplified by the Internet.
    • Chunkers1980
      Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
      There's nothing wrong with them. Just given the choice, there are better alternatives.
    • Kowalski675
      Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
      I like this, in the lairy green:

      http://www.radon-bikes.de/xist4c/web/Sl ... htm#rotate
    • geomickb
      geomickb Posts: 147
      Looks like the Canyon will take a standard pannier. This might swing it for me since it means I can use it for shopping commuting and XC. Just dont like the 9 week waiting list and I will hate taking it to my LBS to get it fixed and they will all know thats another bike I didnt buy from them. Options from the shop are:

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bik ... 857/56880/

      http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/ ... opperpro29

      http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/clockwork_s/

      I think out of them the Giant is my fave.
    • ukface
      ukface Posts: 7
      Well I'll be ordering the Radon this weekend, then just need some pedals, helmet, pump & a few other bits then I'll be good to go. Its going to be an expensive bank holiday! :D
    • chez_m356
      chez_m356 Posts: 1,893
      geomickb wrote:
      Looks like the Canyon will take a standard pannier. This might swing it for me since it means I can use it for shopping commuting and XC. Just dont like the 9 week waiting list and I will hate taking it to my LBS to get it fixed and they will all know thats another bike I didnt buy from them. Options from the shop are:

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bik ... 857/56880/

      http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/ ... opperpro29

      http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/clockwork_s/

      I think out of them the Giant is my fave.
      you like paying more for less ?
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    • slindborg
      slindborg Posts: 98
      geomickb wrote:
      Looks like the Canyon will take a standard pannier. This might swing it for me since it means I can use it for shopping commuting and XC. Just dont like the 9 week waiting list and I will hate taking it to my LBS to get it fixed and they will all know thats another bike I didnt buy from them. Options from the shop are:

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bik ... 857/56880/

      http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/ ... opperpro29

      http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/clockwork_s/

      I think out of them the Giant is my fave.


      Who cares if the bike you take in isn't one you purchased from them... Do you worry about taking a car in for service that you didn't buy from the garage?
    • Greer_
      Greer_ Posts: 1,716
      geomickb wrote:
      Looks like the Canyon will take a standard pannier. This might swing it for me since it means I can use it for shopping commuting and XC. Just dont like the 9 week waiting list and I will hate taking it to my LBS to get it fixed and they will all know thats another bike I didnt buy from them. Options from the shop are:

      http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bik ... 857/56880/

      http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/ ... opperpro29

      http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/clockwork_s/

      I think out of them the Giant is my fave.

      They're good bikes, but compared to the radon/canyon they're spec isn't great and they're just too expensive.
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    • geomickb
      geomickb Posts: 147
      I used to have a LBS that I could walk to and used to get brilliant service for repairs and advice but I never bought a bike from them. It closed down because it wasnt selling enough bikes so I do feel bad buying bikes online. However I agree that the Canyon is much better VFM and will be ordering when I can decide what size (even with a 9 week waiting list).
    • ukface
      ukface Posts: 7
      Well I've ordered my bike, I went for this as they had a sale on for 2 days. http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/a86728 ... 26&cr=GBP#

      What do people do with phones when out? do you mount it in a cradle or carry it on your person.
    • raldat
      raldat Posts: 242
      Hope you enjoy it. I got the Canyon last week. After a few minor mods (wider bars, new saddle etc. - all. From my old bike), I love it. I swapped the avids for Deores (I also had them on the old bike) because I prefer the feel. The avids are fine and went onto the old bike which is now on commute and winter training duty. I would choose the shimano over the avids, but I wold not pay a huge amount for the choice.

      As for the phone, it goes in a light waterproof bag and into the back pocket of my jersey.

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