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Estimate Value Of This Bike Please For My Wife

PaulHassPaulHass Posts: 56
edited May 2013 in Road buying advice
Hi Guys i happened to stumble across this bike on a well known auction site and it had been badly titled so it did not get anywhere near the attention it should have done or anywhere near the price it should have done in my opinion anyway i risked the wrath of my wife by bidding the minimum opening bid and because of the way it was titled still to my shock and surprise i won Before anyone asks why i did not let the seller know the error of his ways and feel sorry for him as he was a absolute censored with too much money a Bentley and a R8 on his drive he bought this bike to do a 50 mile bike ride with his mates never made the end and the bike has not been used since he says less than 100 miles at most when he took the money of me he just threw it on a table and never even counted it :evil:

I am wanting to know if you guys think i got as much of a bargain as i think i did :wink:

Description

Ridley Damocles Full carbon frame & forks

Ness Carbon Fiber Road Integrated Handlebar 4ZA Carbon Monocoque

FSA Headset With 4ZA spacers

FSA SL250 seatpost SuperLight White

Specialized Romin Expert Saddle Titanium rails 210g

Campagnolo Inner & Outer Cables

Campagnolo Record 10 speed Carbon fiber ergopower shifters

Campagnolo Record Brake Callipers 10 speed Titanium

Campagnolo Record Front Derailleur 10 speed Titanium

Campagnolo Record Rear Derailleur 10 speed Carbon fiber

Campagnolo Record Chain 10 speed.

Campagnolo Record Cassette 10 speed.

Campagnolo Record Carbon Crankset Double 53/39 chainset.

Campagnolo Record Bottom Bracket Titanium and carbon fiber bottom bracket with ceramic bearings.

Fulcrum Racing 3’s Wheels fitted with Continental Ultra Gatorskin Tyres



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I Have just Paid £1200
2011 Cube Streamer Ultegra Mavic Ksyrium Elite
2010 Ridley Damocles & Campag Record Fulcrum R3's

Posts

  • VTechVTech Posts: 4,736
    Its worth £1200, not a penny more as anything is worth what someone is willing to pay.
    Its not very nice to try and disgrace the seller in the way that you did, if the item sold for far less than what people would feel is the market value and he still sold it at that price he may well be a great guy as many people won't/dont do that.

    I hope you enjoy the bike though, it looks lovely.
    Living MY dream.
  • PaulHassPaulHass Posts: 56
    Was it you by anychance ?

    An i did not disgrace him he did that himself with his attitude towards me .......
    2011 Cube Streamer Ultegra Mavic Ksyrium Elite
    2010 Ridley Damocles & Campag Record Fulcrum R3's
  • Can you link the auction please to see what else he is selling?

    Thanks KBye
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • MisterMuncherMisterMuncher Posts: 1,302
    Price /= value.

    Anyway, the groupset is four or more years old, and I suppose that would imply the bike as well. The frame alone went for £1500 back in the day, 4ZA are Ridley's own brand finishing kit, and I suppose the wheels would have been about £300.

    It would have been the guts of two and a half grand new. If it's as unused as you say, you're coming away pretty well. I'd say it could have gone for £15-1800 easily as a whole bike, nearer 2 grand parted out.
  • PaulHassPaulHass Posts: 56
    Cheers Mistermuncher he purchased it in 2010 so not that far off your estimate and yes it really has not been ridden
    2011 Cube Streamer Ultegra Mavic Ksyrium Elite
    2010 Ridley Damocles & Campag Record Fulcrum R3's
  • VTechVTech Posts: 4,736
    PaulHass wrote:
    Was it you by anychance ?

    An i did not disgrace him he did that himself with his attitude towards me .......

    Definitely not me im afraid, I wouldn't buy an R8, it would be like buying a Porsche Boxter.

    Was he rude to you on purchase then ?
    Living MY dream.
  • PaulHassPaulHass Posts: 56
    Not so much face to face it was his attitude whilst i was talking to him on the phone to arrange collection of the bike and also during the auction trying to get more info on the bike anyway i am over the moon with the bike just looking for ward to putting it through its paces properly
    2011 Cube Streamer Ultegra Mavic Ksyrium Elite
    2010 Ridley Damocles & Campag Record Fulcrum R3's
  • look565wonglook565wong Posts: 301
    PaulHass,

    The Campagnolo 10 speed Record Groupset of your bike is pre-Ultra Torque/skeleton brakes era, hence will be before 2006/2007. The Chainset BB should still be the square taper type. However, some believe this was the best Record groupset Campagnolo made!

    I think the price you paid is fair both for you & the seller.

    Hope that helps. Enjoy the bike!

    Cheers
  • jibberjimjibberjim Posts: 2,810
    1200 quid is probably a pretty fair price, I don't think it's worth a whole lot more, cheap wheels, out of date groupset (most campag riders will have 11 speed so commonality doesn't match) everything's nice enough and it's not worthless, but equally it's not super sort after I'd say.

    Be happy, but you paid a fair price but if you really want to prove to your wife that's worth more than you paid, you're going to have to sell it.
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  • Tom ButcherTom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    If it's the one that went for £1300 i would say about right - a decent buy if really as new but not spectacular.

    Edit - missed the 1200 bit above

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  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 16,015
    jibberjim wrote:
    1200 quid is probably a pretty fair price, I don't think it's worth a whole lot more, cheap wheels, out of date groupset (most campag riders will have 11 speed so commonality doesn't match) everything's nice enough and it's not worthless, but equally it's not super sort after I'd say.

    No, not really - most Campag riders will have 10 speed. Only relatively recent Athena and above is 11 speed - you can be sure Campagnolo sell more Veloce and Centaur than above. And, of course, Record 10 speed is reckoned by many to be superior to the 11 speed (better quality and all that). Quite honestly, the only out of date bit of the groupset is the cranks and BB and I can't see many noticing that on the bike. Rear Mech alone is worth well over £100 - probably more like £150 given that it is barely used.

    And, of course, if you think wheels that in their current version retail at £450 are cheap wheels, then you are better off than I am.........
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Is the bike going to fit you based on your current ride?

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  • antonyfromozantonyfromoz Posts: 482
    These types of threads always amaze me - does it really matter if anyone else thinks you got a bargain? I can see some value in seeking opinions if you are a beginner and you are unsure if a bike is a good price and will suit your purposes but once you have bought it then it's all a bit academic really, isn't it? Be happy with the bike and the price you paid and don't go looking for someone to reinforce what you bargain you got because there will always be someone who thinks otherwise... :roll:
  • nochekmatenochekmate Posts: 3,460
    You have paid more than enough for that bike @1200 so no need to sound smug about your purchase - given your title I thought it cost you £250. As for the chap who said it was worth 17-1800 - that's bullshite.

    Fine bike though the Damocles - I sold one for £875 (though with 105 rather than Record) :lol:
  • pkripperpkripper Posts: 652
    It's a nice bike and.in good condition, but realistically I don't think the seller got a bad deal - its old, and on that basis has limited resale value. If you'll use it and think you got a bargain then fine, but I don't think its market value is much higher than 1k
  • Monty DogMonty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Groupset is more than 8 years old, so hardly a bargain for a third-hand bike.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • davieseedaviesee Posts: 6,386
    For perspective, you could probably get £150 today for the rear derailleur alone.
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • PaulHassPaulHass Posts: 56
    Is the bike going to fit you based on your current ride?

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    That is my winter bike 54cm which i have now sold on to part fund my new bike (Ridley) and my Cube has now been relegated to my winter ride and on i am sorry if inthis thread it has come across i was gloating on some one elses misfortune or anything this was not the intention i was excited about buying a new bike and still upset at my buying experience with the seller taking the shine of it all and being fairly new to biking wanted some opinions on current values of the components which make up the bike as this is the most i have ever spent on a bike and cannot ever see myself spending on a bike again as hopefully this will last me till i get a wheelchair

    thanks for the time spent replying :wink:
    2011 Cube Streamer Ultegra Mavic Ksyrium Elite
    2010 Ridley Damocles & Campag Record Fulcrum R3's
  • ju5t1nju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    I think you got a good buy with this. The groupset may be older, but it’s definitely a post 2009 Damocles frameset.

    Value aside, how does it ride?
  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 16,015
    daviesee wrote:
    For perspective, you could probably get £150 today for the rear derailleur alone.
    Rolf F wrote:
    Rear Mech alone is worth well over £100 - probably more like £150 given that it is barely used.

    Keep up dear! :lol:
    Faster than a tent.......
  • davieseedaviesee Posts: 6,386
    Rolf F wrote:
    Keep up dear! :lol:
    Thanks honey. :lol:
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
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