It's all lies...

Kowalski675
Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
edited June 2013 in MTB beginners
"Hardtails are faster on climbs" they tell me. So how come a bloke on a long travel bouncy bouncy bike went past me like I was stood still half way up the red route climb at Stainburn this evening?... :lol:

He was considerably faster on the way down too, lol...

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  • Long_Time_Lurker
    Long_Time_Lurker Posts: 1,068
    "A bad workman always blames his tools"

    I have one long incline on the way home from work.
    I got stung by a bloke on a full-bouncer the other day. So I tried to keep up. Managed to catch him at a junction to find out that the bloke must have been about 60.
    And last month someone rode past me, one-handed, on a downhill rig.
    :oops: :evil:

    I now tell myself that they probably live around the corner, whereas I have already been riding for an hour.
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  • Twelly
    Twelly Posts: 1,437
    Kowalski675 wrote:
    "Hardtails are faster on climbs" they tell me. So how come a bloke on a long travel bouncy bouncy bike went past me like I was stood still half way up the red route climb at Stainburn this evening?... :lol:

    He was considerably faster on the way down too, lol...

    He was better and fitter than you..
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,814
    Hardtails (like for like) are faster on climbs, for a start they will be lighter! Of course a high end FS will be lighter than an entry HT and could have lockout or pro-pedal reducing the losses.

    The fact you are rubbish climbing hills is not the fault of your bike!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    Hardtails (like for like) are faster on climbs, for a start they will be lighter!

    Depends on the rider and the climb, I find FS can be a help climbing, I know when I went back to a hardtail I found the climbs more of a struggle than the descents - you have to shift your weight more and stand and sit, rather than just pedalling through everything.
  • anj132
    anj132 Posts: 299
    no no no, you got it wrong, 29ers are better on climbs ;)
  • bartimaeus
    bartimaeus Posts: 1,812
    As an old Citroen ad once put it:

    FASTER THAN A FERRARI *
    *Traveling flat out @ 71.5mph the Citroen 2CV will easily overtake a Porsche 911 traveling @ 65mph.
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  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    edited May 2013
    TwellySmat wrote:
    Kowalski675 wrote:
    "Hardtails are faster on climbs" they tell me. So how come a bloke on a long travel bouncy bouncy bike went past me like I was stood still half way up the red route climb at Stainburn this evening?... :lol:

    He was considerably faster on the way down too, lol...

    He was better and fitter than you..

    No shit, Sherlock. :lol: It was a rhetrical question, lol.

    I washed my bike tonight, so it'll be more aerodynamic now, without the mud on it - I'll smoke him next time... :lol:
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    cyd190468 wrote:
    You should have asked if you could swap bikes with him.

    I would've had to catch him first... :lol:
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    Long Time Lurker wrote:
    And last month someone rode past me, one-handed, on a downhill rig.

    I like doing that when out on my motorbikes. It's amusing when you come across someone who's giving it all the head down, knee out, look at me I think I'm Valentino Rossi routine to just sit on their back wheel for a while riding sat upright with one hand on the bars and the other resting on your thigh, before passing them and clearing off into the distance, lol.
  • MrM
    MrM Posts: 60
    Some guy went past me no handed (showing off) wobbled on a tiny tree root, lost control and wrecked his bike.
    I like happy endings :twisted:
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    MrM wrote:
    Some guy went past me no handed (showing off) wobbled on a tiny tree root, lost control and wrecked his bike.
    I like happy endings :twisted:

    Were you laughing as you passed him? :lol:
  • Woodmonkey
    Woodmonkey Posts: 412
    I got overtaken going downhill by a guy only using one hand, mind you he only had one arm so I don't think it counts as showing off
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  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    Woodmonkey wrote:
    I got overtaken going downhill by a guy only using one hand, mind you he only had one arm so I don't think it counts as showing off

    I get overtaken on flats hill and descents im a rubbish and slow rider though its to be expected 8)
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  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    Woodmonkey wrote:
    I got overtaken going downhill by a guy only using one hand, mind you he only had one arm so I don't think it counts as showing off

    I used to know of a one armed bloke back in the nineties who could wheelie his GSXR better than I've ever managed with two arms, lol.
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    Step83 wrote:
    Woodmonkey wrote:
    I got overtaken going downhill by a guy only using one hand, mind you he only had one arm so I don't think it counts as showing off

    I get overtaken on flats hill and descents im a rubbish and slow rider though its to be expected 8)

    Join the club, lol.
  • MynciBoots
    MynciBoots Posts: 15
    Step83 and Woodmonkey, I'm there with you too!
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    Just tell yourself you had a bad day and tommorow you will rip that guys legs off. No one will believe you but it might massage the ego.

    I had a shocker today I knew straight away as we rode out of the car park I was going to struggle. I think I got overtaken by a rolling stone (a stone not a wrinkly multi millionare) on the 1st climb of the day and thats a bimble I can usually ride up and still be able to have a slightly wheezy chat to a mate. Tommorow I will beat that woman with the walking poles to the top of that climb.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    don't rage

    because your unfit

    I got overtaken on a river track thing. to be fair he was on a top of range Cannondale full sus thou so I didn't feel 2 bad jus a little jealous
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    I passed someone today. He was even older than me and a bit fat. And I got over the rock I haven't managed before. Twice, lol. Yay me... :lol::wink:
  • concorde
    concorde Posts: 1,008
    The only thing a hardtail climbs faster on is a fireroad in my opinion, much easier climbing technical and rough stuff on a full susser. Less of a workout too.
  • raldat
    raldat Posts: 242
    Overtook a roadie in Lycra on the weekend. Not so exciting except I was towing my 2.5 year old in a bike trailer at the time. I think he was a little embarrassed as he passed me back a few hundred meters later.
  • chrisw333
    chrisw333 Posts: 695
    Kowalski675 wrote:
    I'll smoke him next time... :lol:

    Showing admiration at his pedaling prowess is one thing, but this is going a bit far......
  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    :lol: I suspect you deliberately misunderstand me for comic effect, lol.
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Concorde wrote:
    The only thing a hardtail climbs faster on is a fireroad in my opinion, much easier climbing technical and rough stuff on a full susser.

    Can be. Depends on the full suss, some make traction and carry speed better over lumps, others blob it away.
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  • bloghog
    bloghog Posts: 40
    Don't believe all the hype :wink:

    Some hardtails are fast uphill and some bouncers are fast uphill, depends of course who is riding them :wink:

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