Have Sky switched back to mechanical gears?

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  • markwb79
    markwb79 Posts: 937
    CiB wrote:
    Markwb79 wrote:
    How many km's does he race on TV a year? 10-15k? multiply that by the 7 or 8 people in the team. half the season there are two squads racing at the same time. times by 3 or 4 other teams running DI2 in the same race. How many 'failures' are there?
    Some wisdom lifted from another thread where people can't wait to bless us with their certain knowledge of how useless Di2 gear is. Honestly. Some people...

    Di2 is fine. Like everything else in life, most of the time it just works. Occasionally it goes pear shaped like other stuff can and occasionally does, but being Di2 any occasional failure is taken by some as proof that the whole concept is idiotic. Blimey. Glass half full anyone?

    Sensible guy by the sounds of it :)
    Scott Addict 2011
    Giant TCR 2012
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,745
    Imposter wrote:
    Strith wrote:
    I'm not worried about upsetting pro riders, as I'm sure thay care even less about what anybody posts on BR.

    ignorant and insensitive - good work ;)


    Got a good point though...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • teisetrotter
    teisetrotter Posts: 342
    Why exactly do we need electronic gears?

    My car has an automatic gear box, with manual override flappy things which I used once and it is all very useful. It also has four settings pants weather, normal, sport and race. I worked out quickly race mode was an evil plot hatched by a conglomeration of chiropractors and petrol manufacturers wanting to steal my money.

    We could do this with bike gears, set your cadence and power ratio for say: knackered, cruising, feeling strong, I'm thinking of being a racer modes. Sorted, just pedal.
  • esafosfina1
    esafosfina1 Posts: 153
    ddraver wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Strith wrote:
    I'm not worried about upsetting pro riders, as I'm sure thay care even less about what anybody posts on BR.

    ignorant and insensitive - good work ;)


    Got a good point though...

    Nice.. thanks mate. Remind me to post my BA, MA, on BR... :roll: Some of us do care what is said on sites like these... maybe I shouldn't give a shit... :?:
  • Celt100
    Celt100 Posts: 22
    Flasher wrote:
    Wiggins on mechanical for the Giro.
    But Wiggins is trading on his reputation. He’s been fifth in the Volta a Catalunya and fifth in the Giro del Trentino although technical problems disrupted this and as a result he will be on traditional mechanical gears for the Giro and not electronic gears.

    http://inrng.com/2013/04/who-will-win-the-giro/

    But is this because of the Di2 Failure or the fact he can run his preferred "0" rings probably both would be my guess :D
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,745
    ddraver wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Strith wrote:
    I'm not worried about upsetting pro riders, as I'm sure thay care even less about what anybody posts on BR.

    ignorant and insensitive - good work ;)


    Got a good point though...

    Nice.. thanks mate. Remind me to post my BA, MA, on BR... :roll: Some of us do care what is said on sites like these... maybe I shouldn't give a shoot... :?:

    I value your contributions eso, and I like the insights you give, but hell I really wouldnt care what we think. I'm fully aware that I'm no expert but it's still a bit of fun to discuss stuff...until anyone thinks that any of what they re posting is serious or important!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • nferrar
    nferrar Posts: 2,511
    Given that SRAM Red has won almost all of the GT's over the past few years, i would suggest that secret pros need to spend a bit more time riding and a bit less time laughing...
    Oh come on, like what groupset they were using had anything to do with it

    As for Wiggo and Di2, whilst I'm a fan of both given his recent experience and that apart from on a TT bike Di2 really doesn't offer any performance advantage then I can see why he'd want to switch back to mechanical for the time being. I mean imagine the issue had occurred on a key stage in the Giro? Sure a mechanical gear cable can snap to but it's very rare and I'm guessing it's not happened to Wiggins recently so he's prepared to take his chances.
  • thiscocks
    thiscocks Posts: 549
    Without being condescending, I think many of you are missing a crucial point... these are the best riders in the world... if they wish to ride a certain component over another (given, within sponsorship...) then so be it. Even a first year pro like me had a certain sway when it came to equipment when I won the Worlds... (ADR were sponsored by Mavic - I rode Campag) so even if SKY had to revert to 2012 kit to get the best, they would. Anyway... what would I know.
    When did you win?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,745
    nferrar wrote:
    Given that SRAM Red has won almost all of the GT's over the past few years, i would suggest that secret pros need to spend a bit more time riding and a bit less time laughing...
    Oh come on, like what groupset they were using had anything to do with it

    100% exactly mate! Cut's all 3 ways...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Somewhat off the topic, but I'm always slightly surprised at just how few genuine mechanical issues (ignoring punctures and accident damage, obviously) one sees in pro racing given that absolute hammering the bikes are getting compared to what J. Random Rider dishes out, and the whopping great combined mileage ridden each race/stage. Okay, so clearly having regular access to decent mechanics is going to help, but I reckon it's hard to escape the conclusion that, overall, the equipment used at that level is extremely reliable and robust.
    Mangeur
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    Does anyone actually know what went wrong with Wiggins's Di2 anyway?
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • celbianchi
    celbianchi Posts: 854
    thiscocks wrote:
    Without being condescending, I think many of you are missing a crucial point... these are the best riders in the world... if they wish to ride a certain component over another (given, within sponsorship...) then so be it. Even a first year pro like me had a certain sway when it came to equipment when I won the Worlds... (ADR were sponsored by Mavic - I rode Campag) so even if SKY had to revert to 2012 kit to get the best, they would. Anyway... what would I know.
    When did you win?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAKp6nAdshE
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Somewhat off the topic, but I'm always slightly surprised at just how few genuine mechanical issues (ignoring punctures and accident damage, obviously) one sees in pro racing given that absolute hammering the bikes are getting compared to what J. Random Rider dishes out, and the whopping great combined mileage ridden each race/stage. Okay, so clearly having regular access to decent mechanics is going to help, but I reckon it's hard to escape the conclusion that, overall, the equipment used at that level is extremely reliable and robust.

    Safe to say that the kit is pretty robust as we 'normal' riders use them and if kept clean and serviced will wear at an acceptable rate & you will probably find that mechanicals are pretty low in the category of riders who look after there bikes too. Think for pro's the bikes are cleaned, inspected, serviced, worn parts replaced with the best kit & the mechanics are pretty top notch on the skills front.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    edited May 2013
    Err...

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,745
    :D:D
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver