Interesting sunday ride

the playing mantis
the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
edited April 2013 in Road general
b'stard of a wind in essex on sunday, always seemed to be heading into it,

anyway 2 semi interesting things happened to me on my ride. going through a little village with cars parked on the other side of the road from me, as i was approcahing and an a4 estate coming the other way towards me accelarates even though its my right of way and i'm just about to reach the cars, forcing me to slow down and wait for him to come through, but all of a sudden theres a massive crunch and grinding noise and he ceases all forward motion. the car cannot move and the engine continues to grind. quite amusing, as i squeeze thru leaving the car prone. no idea what could have happened but sounded like metal exploding/disintergrating in the engine or something and then all the bits being thrown about. that will f up the engine. it was a year old high specced one too. which made it all the funnier

later on come across a car stopped int he middle of a lane that is just about wide enough for 2 cars, with a range rover a few car lengths behind him. bloke in first car is out on the road walking back from the range rover, i cycle by unaware of whats going on (not a crunch or anything) then i hear an animal 'bleat' ..i turn round and see a small prone brown figure on the ide of the road, so slow down (im now a hundred yards past) and hear the bleat/yelp again. it was a little deer, either a muntjac or baby fallow, and the first car must have hit it and stopped. i stopped (still 100 yards further on) thinking what could i do to help. as the deer obviously in severe pain continued to lie prone a bleat every few seconds. i realised i couldnt do anything so started off again, but looking back saw the car driver i think trying to put it out of its misery by stamping on it, but didnt seem to have much luck.

not a nice situation.

anyone here hit a deer whilst driving (or cycling!) if so did u finish it off if it was severly wounded? im not sure what id do, call out the deer dispatchers or try and do it myself if i could find something suitable and it was clealry in lots of pain.

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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Never hit one myself but had a few near misses growing up on the wales/forest of dean border with sheep, deer etc.

    If if were me I'd call the police or if you know the number your council deer warden scheme. Which is an intuitive set up by councils on how to deal with accidents involving animals between the council, police & authorised volunteers. If the chap in the Rover had called the police they would normally call the wardens out who operate 24 hours a day & would dispatch the animal in as humanely way as possible. I guess the other alternative would be a vet but am guessing that this would come out of your own pocket to pay them for the call out.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Firstly please go back and edit your post, that was quite painful to read! :)

    I have never hit a deer but I guess if I did whilst on the bike, it would be me coming off a whole lot worse.

    I guess you could also call the RSPCA they would probably know best how to deal with the issue at hand.
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  • the playing mantis
    the playing mantis Posts: 2,129
    edited April 2013
    yes the deer dispatches are meant to be 24hrs (they are usually farmers with a gun so can be fairly local) that would be best, bu if the animal is clealry in severe pain would u try and do it yourself? a bird or rabbit yes i would as it would be fairly easy, but dont think i could finish a deer off without a gun or bolt or whatever. i certainly coudlnt stamp on its head or whatever the bloke was trying to do.
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    goonz wrote:
    Firstly please go back and edit your post, that was quite painful to read! :)

    I have never hit a deer but I guess if I did whilst on the bike, it would be me coming off a whole lot worse.

    I guess you could also call the RSPCA they would probably know best how to deal with the issue at hand.

    Have a video of a mate getting wiped out by one on an MTB descent I was two behind and just saw this thing appear on the right and then my mate go flying left. Ended up with 3 cracked ribs and a lot of pain, made even worse when watching the video back as we all couldn't stop laughing.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    yes the deer dispatches are meant to be 24hrs (they are usually farmers with a gun so can be fairly local) that would be best, bu if the animal is clealry in severe pain would u try and do it yourself? a bird or rabbit yes i would as it would be fairly easy, but dont think i could finish a deer off without a gun or bolt or whatever. i certainly coulnt stamp on its head or whatever the bloke was trying to do.

    No I wouldn't attempt it myself, not got the right skill set or knowledge & would probably end up causing it more pain.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • goonz wrote:
    Firstly please go back and edit your post, that was quite painful to read! :)

    I have never hit a deer but I guess if I did whilst on the bike, it would be me coming off a whole lot worse.

    I guess you could also call the RSPCA they would probably know best how to deal with the issue at hand.

    done sort of! i will add apologies for my speeling on my banner, as i never bother to proof read, as im usually furtively posting from work!

    i think if i hit a muntjac's side on its head/neck/middle, head on, on a long flat road where i was acaning it, i certainly would go flying but think the deer would not be in a good way.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Also the guy stamping on the poor deers head, may have been doing it out of anger at the deer damaging his vehicle.
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  • i asume that was tongue in cheek? his vehicle was seemingly not damaged as far as i can see, and he looked a bit shocked from my brief glance at him, and was gingerly looking down at the animal it seemed.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    i asume that was tongue in cheek? his vehicle was seemingly not damaged as far as i can see, and he looked a bit shocked from my brief glance at him, and was gingerly looking down at the animal it seemed.

    Yes it was tongue in cheek, but you cannot put it past some people out there....
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  • Davdandy
    Davdandy Posts: 571
    Prove positive that 4x4 owners are a-holes. :evil:
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  • it wasnt a 4x4 that hit the deer, it was some old japanese GT86 type sports car. the range rover was behind this.
    nothing wrong with 4x4 owners!
  • Bustacapp
    Bustacapp Posts: 971
    trying to put it out of its misery by stamping on it
    wtf-cat.gif
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    all of a sudden theres a massive crunch and grinding noise and he ceases all forward motion. the car cannot move and the engine continues to grind. quite amusing, as i squeeze thru leaving the car prone. no idea what could have happened but sounded like metal exploding/disintergrating in the engine or something and then all the bits being thrown about. that will f up the engine. it was a year old high specced one too. which made it all the funnier
    Glad to see there are still people around who get their kicks seeing someone suffer mechanical failure of an expensive piece of equipment. :roll:

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  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548
    The deer needed to be put out of its misery. As gruesome as it sounds, the swiftest, most convenient and easiest way to have done this (assuming the animal could not move) would have been for the 4 x 4 to have driven over its neck/head.
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  • city_boy
    city_boy Posts: 1,616
    goonz wrote:
    Firstly please go back and edit your post, that was quite painful to read! :)

    I have never hit a deer but I guess if I did whilst on the bike, it would be me coming off a whole lot worse.

    I guess you could also call the RSPCA they would probably know best how to deal with the issue at hand.

    Have a video of a mate getting wiped out by one on an MTB descent I was two behind and just saw this thing appear on the right and then my mate go flying left. Ended up with 3 cracked ribs and a lot of pain, made even worse when watching the video back as we all couldn't stop laughing.

    Hope you're going to post the video? :lol:
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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    City Boy wrote:

    Hope you're going to post the video? :lol:

    Wish I could however the mate who got wiped out passed away last year & therefore whilst a funny video don't think his family would appreciate the sentiment of posting quite as much as he did at the time.

    Lets just say that the mate was a big bloke and the deer was a youngish make, we think, and it was going straight across the path at 90 degrees to us & sent my buddy flying quite some way.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • city_boy
    city_boy Posts: 1,616
    City Boy wrote:

    Hope you're going to post the video? :lol:

    Wish I could however the mate who got wiped out passed away last year & therefore whilst a funny video don't think his family would appreciate the sentiment of posting quite as much as he did at the time.

    Lets just say that the mate was a big bloke and the deer was a youngish make, we think, and it was going straight across the path at 90 degrees to us & sent my buddy flying quite some way.

    Really sorry to hear that.
    Classic case of 'foot-in-mouth' syndrome from me! Please accept my apologies.
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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    City Boy wrote:

    Really sorry to hear that.
    Classic case of 'foot-in-mouth' syndrome from me! Please accept my apologies.

    Nah your OK & no need to apologise to me, you had no way of knowing and were not offensive in your post and even if you were you had no way of knowing so no harm done at all.

    The video was taken about 8 years ago I think & we regularly used to ride on the weekend with a group of about 8 of us on the MTB's and every other time we would do one of 2 routes home. I had just gotten into taking video of us riding and doing a little edit for us to watch during a few beers mid week.

    My buddy, I would like to think, would like the idea that his pain (from the accident) would make people laugh a lot as he was a proper joker himself & was unrelated to his passing away.His mum however gets a little upset & he has a little one (well not so little now) and wouldn't really be fair on them I guess.

    But do have hours of crashes, falling off, SPD unclipping fails, poorly judged jumps & one crown jewel crunching table top failure. If I get time I will upload some of them but we are in the middle of a house move so lots of stuff including back up drives are in storage, along with a load of my bikes hence me being on BR so much of late rather than getting out riding.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    CiB wrote:
    all of a sudden theres a massive crunch and grinding noise and he ceases all forward motion. the car cannot move and the engine continues to grind. quite amusing, as i squeeze thru leaving the car prone. no idea what could have happened but sounded like metal exploding/disintergrating in the engine or something and then all the bits being thrown about. that will f up the engine. it was a year old high specced one too. which made it all the funnier
    Glad to see there are still people around who get their kicks seeing someone suffer mechanical failure of an expensive piece of equipment. :roll:

    This isn't the fun place it used to be...

    The schadenfreude was from the Karmic retribution for driver not giving way.
  • merkin
    merkin Posts: 452
    I once came across a wounded deer whilst driving one dark evening which was clearly suffering and beyond help. I pulled up about 10ft from it and got out to try and work out he best way to despatch it. Whilst I knew it had to be done I wasn't sure I was man enough to do it with my hands (I had visions of the cow scene in " Me myself and Irene"). I eventually decided to simply run over it's head which was lolling about on the edge of the road.So I got back in my car and drove straight at it. Bad mistake. My car was a front wheel drive and accelerating onto a deers head from 10ft meant it wheelspan as it passed over the head fairly slowly. I wasn't convinced I had killed it so I turned around just up the road and hit it at speed to make sure. All pretty gruesome but it needed to be done.
    I have since heard that if you cover a wounded deers head with a blanket or jacket it calms them down a bit if you decide to wait for a more professional solution.
  • MattC59
    MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    Davdandy wrote:
    Prove positive that 4x4 owners are a-holes. :evil:

    Or not.
    :roll:
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  • CiB wrote:
    all of a sudden theres a massive crunch and grinding noise and he ceases all forward motion. the car cannot move and the engine continues to grind. quite amusing, as i squeeze thru leaving the car prone. no idea what could have happened but sounded like metal exploding/disintergrating in the engine or something and then all the bits being thrown about. that will f up the engine. it was a year old high specced one too. which made it all the funnier
    Glad to see there are still people around who get their kicks seeing someone suffer mechanical failure of an expensive piece of equipment. :roll:

    This isn't the fun place it used to be...

    turn it up pal, read my post and the situation b4 posting daft comments.

    the clown in the audi should have waited for me, instead he accelerated from some way back even though he saw me coming at a decent pace, thus forcing me to come to a stop when it was my right of way and common courtesy would have meant he waited. it was only a couple of parked cars, so he would have saved all of a few seconds. its hardly getting kicks, i think it was karma for the driver being a bell end, but what do you expect from audi drivers, if they had any sense they would get a beamer or merc rather than a w*nkermobile (but then again im prejudiced against audis from the 'cheating' days of frank biela in his 4 wheel drive a4 not being handicapped enough thus robbing smoking jo and team schnitzer of a few btcc titles).

    if people dont like forums instead of whinging just leave quietly.
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    the clown in the audi should have waited for me, instead he accelerated from some way back even though he saw me coming at a decent pace, thus forcing me to come to a stop when it was my right of way and common courtesy would have meant he waited.

    Some bird did this to me just last night. We were both going for the lights from opposite ends and she sped up and turned right at quite a pace and I had to brake prety hard, skidding a little to make sure there were no problems.
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  • term1te
    term1te Posts: 1,462
    Not related to deer, or an exploding Audi, but I did see a lady with a large green parrot sitting on her shoulder casually walking down the road. Rather disappointingly she didn't appear to be a pirate.
  • Davdandy
    Davdandy Posts: 571
    MattC59 wrote:
    Davdandy wrote:
    Prove positive that 4x4 owners are a-holes. :evil:

    Or not.
    :roll:


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