Out of the loop...

felix.london
felix.london Posts: 4,067
edited April 2013 in MTB general
First of all, I trust you all had (are still having?) a good winter.

Only a couple more weeks until the lifts close over here and the snowboards & skis go back in the cave

The more exposed, south facing trails are slowly opening up with the odd alpine flower peaking through the snow here and there. So, getting excited to get back to business...but first some help please;

1/ Any CRC vouchers going? - the ba$tards have started charging to France so a £10 voucher equals free delivery

2/ The missuz chopped all my hair off and now my The F-1 lid is way too big for my bonce. Looking for a lightweight and airy XC/AM lid with back of the head protection and decent strap adjustments. The F-1 was very basic in this regard. 661 Recon?

3/ My 2012 Reba RL was performing flawlessly when the bike went away in November but it took a serious alpine beating for the entire season (Every decent is pretty much, full on DH!) and except for installing it in the first place, the odd stanchion wipe and lube and obviously tweaking the air I haven't touched the thing

The question is; Do I send it off for a professional tune & service now (€130) before another season of abuse - and possibly before any problems do arise (I don't want to be off the trails for anytime at all) or as it's working sweetly do I leave well alone? Will a pro tune-up make a noticeable difference to the ride?

..oh and 4/ I've entered this years Megavalanche and booked the hotel so we're on, like Donkey Kong! :)

Cheers and glad to be back...nearly
"Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

Trek Session 8

Comments

  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    3/ Do a full home service, would have been better to do it over winter and then order anything looking past it's best (seals etc)
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    3/ Do a full home service, would have been better to do it over winter and then order anything looking past it's best (seals etc)

    So a custom tune is unnecessary? Like I say I've still got a couple of weeks so should be enough time to order seals or whatever. Any links to a nice service kit? Think Loco do one?
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • warpcow
    warpcow Posts: 1,448
    You won't get much of a custom tune out of a Reba RL: there're no shim stacks to tune to weight and riding style or anything. You'd have to Push it, or upgrade to a Blackbox/RCT3 dampers to get a proper difference in performance and that would cost a lot more than €130 (though you could source and fit them yourself for about that price, and carry out a basic service at the same time).
  • Yacoby
    Yacoby Posts: 211
    1/ Any CRC vouchers going? - the ba$tards have started charging to France so a £10 voucher equals free delivery
    I have one that I am probably never going to use. PM Sent
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    Custom tune isn't necessary, but I would send them off to TF or someone who knows what they're doing. A lowers service is easy enough, but a damper service isn't so easy. They might be working alright now, but I'm going to bet that they're not so pretty inside after a season's beating. Best to get them done once a year minimum. Send them off to TF to do a full service, and you can do a lower leg service yourself every so often if you feel you need to. Doesn't take long for the oil in the lowers to get all nasty and full of crap, trust me on that ;)

    Also, I really rate my Fox Flux lid (pretty much the same as the 661 recon), but as per usual, it's whatever fits you really.
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Damper service is pretty straight forward to be honest, kits are available on ebay - same for the air springs.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    Yacoby wrote:
    1/ Any CRC vouchers going? - the ba$tards have started charging to France so a £10 voucher equals free delivery
    I have one that I am probably never going to use. PM Sent

    Appreciated. Cheers my man. Helmet ordered.
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    ilovedirt wrote:
    Custom tune isn't necessary, but I would send them off to TF or someone who knows what they're doing. A lowers service is easy enough, but a damper service isn't so easy. They might be working alright now, but I'm going to bet that they're not so pretty inside after a season's beating. Best to get them done once a year minimum. Send them off to TF to do a full service, and you can do a lower leg service yourself every so often if you feel you need to. Doesn't take long for the oil in the lowers to get all nasty and full of crap, trust me on that ;)

    Also, I really rate my Fox Flux lid (pretty much the same as the 661 recon), but as per usual, it's whatever fits you really.

    Due to postage costs to and from UK it doesn't make much sense to use TF or Loco but these guys have been recommended to me;

    http://www.x1-racing-suspension.com/

    This is what you get for your €130 (Google translated)

    - changes in all joints, internal and external.
    - complete disassembly, cleaning
    - oil
    - labor
    - Improved hydraulic flow
    - Removing friction
    - Changing hydraulic cartridges
    - Improvement curve progression

    PS - got the 661 the Fox version was a tenner more

    Thanks for the advice
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    supersonic wrote:
    Damper service is pretty straight forward to be honest, kits are available on ebay - same for the air springs.
    If you have all the tools etc you need and plan on doing it regularly...
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Only basic tools are needed! Unless you want to replace bushings.
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    It's still a pain in the arse and will end up costing you half of what a tuning company will charge you anyway if you buy the proper rockshox kit, might as well just send it to them.
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    ilovedirt wrote:
    It's still a pain in the ars* and will end up costing you half of what a tuning company will charge you anyway if you buy the proper rockshox kit, might as well just send it to them.

    My thoughts exactly.
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • Plyphon
    Plyphon Posts: 433
    Do it yourself!

    It's therapeutic and you'll learn loads about how your fork works which will enable you to make better decisions on how to set it up and more importantly - identify and fix faults in the future.

    There are countless guides on the internet and you can always ask here if stuck.

    It's quite frightening how simple they are inside, tbh.
  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    I did my Revelations myself. Nothing to them really. The cost can add up the first time but once you have the equipment you have it for years.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    I did my old '06 Bombers myself and did an oil change on my Boxxers when I got the DH bike but as ilovedirt said by the time I've got all the bits, paid for delivery etc plus the time it takes actually doing it - €130 doesn't sound too bad to get them done by the pros
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    It's a good price.
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    And more importantly, they'll put an X1 Racing Suspension sticker on the fork...and if that doesn't make me go faster, nothing will
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • felix.london
    felix.london Posts: 4,067
    The Reba refresh kit plus the low-friction wiper seal kit comes to over £60 by itself (without delivery) from TFT
    "Why have that extra tooth if you're not using it?" - Brian Lopes

    Votec V.SX Enduro 'Alpine Thug' 2012/2013 build

    Trek Session 8
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    On the helmet front you know I'm going to say "whatever fits", but despite that I will also say that if you have a Giro shaped head (mine is) then the 661 Recon fits very well, I know this because I changed to the Recon after writing of a Hex in a crash and I am really impressed with it.
    Trail fun - Transition Bandit
    Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
    Allround - Cotic Solaris
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Depends what it NEEDS, vesrus them changing everything because it's a service, although as they sound like they've been well used it may be 'everything'.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.