OCP advice required (quick, while the wife is out!)

LittlePlums
LittlePlums Posts: 139
edited April 2013 in Road general
Urgent help required:

I'm just about to fit some new tyres on my wheels but have a quandary. The manufacturer (Continental) and the tyre name (Grand Prix 4000s) are on opposite sides of the tyre, so my question is, which do I align to the valve?

I've got to do this while the wife is out, otherwise she'll rumble the new purchase, so an urgent reply would be appreciated.
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Vallves should be at 6 o'clock when photo'd so put the tyres on so the writing is the right way up.
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  • LittlePlums
    LittlePlums Posts: 139
    Understood, but do I centre the valve on Continental, or Grand Prix 4000s?
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    I would have the Continental next to the valve so the main name is on top for photo rules
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  • jcondylis01
    jcondylis01 Posts: 50
    i would centre it on the continental... but different strokes and all that.
  • LittlePlums
    LittlePlums Posts: 139
    Thanks for your help
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  • seanorawe
    seanorawe Posts: 950
    I took my tyres off today and put them back on with the logo in a more central position and im at least 4mph on average faster
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  • sigorman85
    sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
    OCD can be a bad thing
    When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Valve centred on the middle n of continental.
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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Yesyesyes - but the brand name is often in a different position on the near side to the offside - so which do you line up?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Valve centred on the middle n of continental.

    That was what I meant
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Valve centred on the middle n of continental.

    A touch to the left of the middle of the n to take into account that the C will be a capital and therefore slightly wider.
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  • Graeme Jones
    Graeme Jones Posts: 361
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Graeme Jones wrote:
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim

    :shock:
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  • LittlePlums
    LittlePlums Posts: 139
    Rolf F wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Valve centred on the middle n of continental.

    A touch to the left of the middle of the n to take into account that the C will be a capital and therefore slightly wider.

    Actually, they are all capitals, so it is the centre of the middle N. In fact, on closer inspection, there is a line that bisects that N and goes towards the rim, which allows precise location with the valve. Now that is the mark of a quality tyre! Only the Germans would understand the need for such precision.
    Slowbike wrote:
    Yesyesyes - but the brand name is often in a different position on the near side to the offside - so which do you line up?

    Not on these bad boys!
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  • andy9964
    andy9964 Posts: 930
    LittlePlums wrote:
    Slowbike wrote:
    Yesyesyes - but the brand name is often in a different position on the near side to the offside - so which do you line up?

    Not on these bad boys!

    If it was on a different position, simply line up the side being photographed

    And cover the eye that sees the other side while riding, with duct tape :)
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    Andy9964 wrote:
    LittlePlums wrote:
    Slowbike wrote:
    Yesyesyes - but the brand name is often in a different position on the near side to the offside - so which do you line up?

    Not on these bad boys!

    If it was on a different position, simply line up the side being photographed

    And cover the eye that sees the other side while riding, with duct tape :)

    and I thought you were going to suggest redoing the graphics on the otherside ... ;)
  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Graeme Jones wrote:
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim

    Thank you! Finally someone said it!
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  • brettjmcc
    brettjmcc Posts: 1,361
    goonz wrote:
    Graeme Jones wrote:
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim

    Thank you! Finally someone said it!

    Not for you maybe, but the OP specifically called out OCP, so yes, it is serious. OCP as a condition falls into the same category as man flu.

    I have spent many hourse ensuring that photo and look is just right.

    BTW - My name is Brett and I have OCP, I am in recovery and haven't altered a bike for a photo for at least 2 weeks :P
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  • ToeKnee
    ToeKnee Posts: 376
    Aligning the tyre to the value also makes finding the valve at night easier (fairy visits and all that). Well, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    goonz wrote:
    Graeme Jones wrote:
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim

    Thank you! Finally someone said it!

    Now that is plain sloppy :mrgreen:

    If you are going to have logos on tyres they need to line up with something, so it may as well be the valve. :wink:
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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    I know its bad form, what can I say? I simply don't give a sheet! :)
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  • navrig
    navrig Posts: 1,352
    smidsy wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    Graeme Jones wrote:
    Is this serious? Wack the tyre on the rim

    Thank you! Finally someone said it!

    Now that is plain sloppy :mrgreen:

    If you are going to have logos on tyres they need to line up with something, so it may as well be the valve. :wink:

    Unless you have matching tyres and wheels such as Mavic then you can align the logos BUT only on one side. WTF!!!
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Navrig wrote:
    Unless you have matching tyres and wheels such as Mavic then you can align the logos BUT only on one side. WTF!!!

    You have lost me. Are you saying that tyres do not match sides
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  • navrig
    navrig Posts: 1,352
    smidsy wrote:
    Navrig wrote:
    Unless you have matching tyres and wheels such as Mavic then you can align the logos BUT only on one side. WTF!!!

    You have lost me. Are you saying that tyres do not match sides

    The logos on the tyres match but the Mavic logos on the stickers on the wheels are not aligned. So if i align the Mavic on one side it is not aligned on the other side.

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  • FergySteve
    FergySteve Posts: 82
    My mavic rims have the mavic logo directly above the valve and then the model name to the right of that (drive side) so if I line the centre of the tyre logo up with the valve (which is what I've done at the moment) it looks a little squiffy. Might have to line up the left hand edge of the tyre logo to the valve so it matches the rim logo...
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    goonz wrote:
    I know its bad form, what can I say? I simply don't give a sheet! :)

    There is the genuine practical reason (though that doesn't require you to align exactly with the middle 'n'!) - ie if you align the lettering with the valve and you get a puncture, once you find the hole in the inner tube you know where to check the tyre to make sure the cause isn't still embedded in it.
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  • ManOfKent
    ManOfKent Posts: 392
    Rolf F wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    I know its bad form, what can I say? I simply don't give a sheet! :)

    There is the genuine practical reason (though that doesn't require you to align exactly with the middle 'n'!) - ie if you align the lettering with the valve and you get a puncture, once you find the hole in the inner tube you know where to check the tyre to make sure the cause isn't still embedded in it.

    Nice try. :wink:

    You don't need to do that if, like most people I know, you remove the tube without removing or rotating the tyre. And also it doesn't work so well if, like me, you fiddle about with the removed tube so much in the course of looking for the hole that you can't remember whether you've reversed it or not, and then have to check two places.

    I've never aligned any combination of labels, decals, valves or patterns on tyres and wheels but after this thread I might give it a try when I put the summer tyre on tonight, to see how much difference it makes to puncture resistance.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    ManOfKent wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    goonz wrote:
    I know its bad form, what can I say? I simply don't give a sheet! :)

    There is the genuine practical reason (though that doesn't require you to align exactly with the middle 'n'!) - ie if you align the lettering with the valve and you get a puncture, once you find the hole in the inner tube you know where to check the tyre to make sure the cause isn't still embedded in it.

    Nice try. :wink:

    You don't need to do that if, like most people I know, you remove the tube without removing or rotating the tyre. And also it doesn't work so well if, like me, you fiddle about with the removed tube so much in the course of looking for the hole that you can't remember whether you've reversed it or not, and then have to check two places.

    I've never aligned any combination of labels, decals, valves or patterns on tyres and wheels but after this thread I might give it a try when I put the summer tyre on tonight, to see how much difference it makes to puncture resistance.

    Two places to look is fine - much better than everywhere. But you are right that in theory you should be able to avoid moving the tyre on the rim but, once one bead is off, particularly with folding tyres, it is very easy to slip the tyre quite a bit. Besides, when it is cold and raining, the last thing you need is to find excuses to just get the tyre on without checking because it's bound to be fine.......
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