Bryton computers
Rod11
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Any Bryton users out there? Any reason not to get one? Looking at getting the 20, £125 for HRM and cadence seems like a pretty good deal to me, and I don't really want maps as I'd never use it, but being able to upload my rides afterwards definitely appeals... Thoughts?
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I have the 35, which has breadcrumb navigation (similar to a Garmin 500).
The unit is great.
The only issue I have is the Bryton Website interface is a little slow. You need to use this to create rides and store and manage your data. You can upload to Strava from there too.
I am sure there may be other ways of doing it but at present I am struggling with the Bryton Bridge Interface.
I got the 35 with Cadence and HR for £90 a month or so ago but all stock at that price has gone.Yellow is the new Black.0 -
Hey smidsy
Can you tell me a bit more about the navigation facility? I am not looking for maps, what I want is something that will guide me round a pre-defined route (file downloaded from one of the map sites), does the 35 do this?
Put it this way, if you pre-mapped out a 50mile route in an area you did not know at all, then uploaded it to the 35, would it get you round the route?
cheers..........."And Pedro Delgado has sprouted wings!"............0 -
Absolutely. You can either download other peoples rides or create one of your own by plotting it on a road map (that the Bryton Website has) and then it will show you the route as a series of segments (lines on the screen) with an arrow on it to mark your position.
As you get to the next segmnet the screen changes to always mark your position. The line segmments on the screen show bends and squiggles etc to give an idea of what the road does (so they are not just left, righ arrows on the screen).
If you take a wrong turn it comes up OFF ROUTE so you can just nip round and get back on track.
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Perfect, thanks for that Smidsy............"And Pedro Delgado has sprouted wings!"............0
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xpro wrote:Hey smidsy
Can you tell me a bit more about the navigation facility? I am not looking for maps, what I want is something that will guide me round a pre-defined route (file downloaded from one of the map sites), does the 35 do this?
Put it this way, if you pre-mapped out a 50mile route in an area you did not know at all, then uploaded it to the 35, would it get you round the route?
cheers
I'd have a look at the 40 as well if you are considering the 35. They can often be got for about £10 more. You don't get so much for the ten quid - I think the route following is better, there are some neat preconfigured workouts which are almost impossible to follow in hilly Yorkshire and a useful pause function. But the unit itself is smaller and neater which I think is worth paying a bit more for.Faster than a tent.......0 -
I can recommend the 50 - well worth the money vs paying for the Garmin name.Sensa Giulia 1050
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Some really useful comments on here! cheers.
Just found the 35E at £107.99 and the 40E at £134.99 inc heart strap..........."And Pedro Delgado has sprouted wings!"............0 -
I have the 20 with HRM and cadence. I did have to get a replacement unit (prompted by Rolf) as the original one just kept resetting and losing all linked devices and data. Wiggle were sort of ok in that they did take over 3 weeks to replace the product but only because it counted as a warranty claim... so they had to send it to Bryton and it got lost in the post! At which point Wiggle just sent out a brand new replacement so fair do's.
Anyway, units are ok and work very well in use but they are certainly not as waterproof as the UK weather dictates. I wrap mine in cheap plastic to stop it misting up in rain which works but looks a bit gash. I also think the Bryton Bridge site is pants when compared to Strava so the best way to avoid it is to use the Bryton Bridge s/w to upload your files to a laptop and then upload direct to Strava (tcx format works really well). The BB s/w can also be hit or miss though, I often have to restart my laptop to get it to recognise the unit when connected but I cannot see a way around that at the mo (restarting the BB s/w works sometimes, sometimes not). I guess that could be a laptop problem but everything else works ok.
So, all in all, I would rate as OK but could be a lot better.0 -
Agree with most (I have a 35). OK - but really a "poor man's Garmin"
They work fine but the website feels a little flakey at times.
If you are thinking about a 35, I would definitely go for the 40. The website has been altered to take into account the features the more recent devices have (like the 40) but the 35 doesn't: User configurable heart rate zones, uploaded training plans (though I know a cheat to get around that on a 35) etc. It's a more modern bit of kit and should be better supported in the future. Then again, the 35 can sometimes be had a cheap prices with HRM and cadence on the usual group-buy sites - I got one for £100.0 -
g00se wrote:Agree with most (I have a 35). OK - but really a "poor man's Garmin"
They work fine but the website feels a little flakey at times.
If you are thinking about a 35, I would definitely go for the 40. The website has been altered to take into account the features the more recent devices have (like the 40) but the 35 doesn't: User configurable heart rate zones, uploaded training plans (though I know a cheat to get around that on a 35) etc. It's a more modern bit of kit and should be better supported in the future. Then again, the 35 can sometimes be had a cheap prices with HRM and cadence on the usual group-buy sites - I got one for £100.
Interesting that! I tend to use my 30/35 for commuting and don't muck around with the settings - but they certainly did have configurable HR zones irrc and training plans at one point - before the 40 came out. Basically, the unit I think is exactly the same just configured differently. Would be interested to know your cheat for my own amusement.Faster than a tent.......0 -
If you create custom zones on the Bryton Bridge site (7 zones - MHR or LTHR based), you can't upload them to the 35, the zones it displays are the old-school 5-zone MHR based ones 50-60%, 60-70% etc.
Also, if you create a custom training plan on the site and try to push it to the 35, it'll pop up a message saying it can't be done.
HOWEVER, if you create your zones and training plan, schedule a workout based on these on the site and then push this scheduled workout to the 35, the custom training plan is available on the devices 'Training->My Workout' area, independent of any scheduling. So you can use it anytime. The zones are only available to these workouts though - not the device generally.0 -
it sounds like that's what you were doing too.0
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zx6man wrote:mhj999 wrote:I can recommend the 50 - well worth the money vs paying for the Garmin name.
does the 50 do the nav thing like the 800 where it shows the stats, but then drops to nav mode for corners/junctions/turns etc, then goes back to the stats page once done?
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You can have the screens on auto scroll though.Yellow is the new Black.0
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I got a 35t in the CycleStore sale for £90, then sold the HR/Cadence sensors for £55.
You can set up the navigation screens with Distance to waypoint and a turn arrow for next waypoint.
BUT I have found that using navigation results in some very erratic results in Strava, including speeds of up to 76mph and multiple KOM's (flagged by me).
Overall very happy with it and can see no massive difference to the Garmin 500.
The main reason Bryton is cheaper and less popular is a copyright clam against them in the USA from Garmin, which means they cannot be sold in North America.0 -
alanparsons wrote:BUT I have found that using navigation results in some very erratic results in Strava, including speeds of up to 76mph an multiple KOM's (flagged by me)
Ahh that explains my KOM on Monday for a 0.5 mile segment in 30 seconds with a speed of 56mph.
And I had just written a lovely email to Team GB to see if they had any place...Oh well
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Now I am more confused than ever, are these things actually any good or not? I really dont want to have to wrap my bike computer in plastic in the rain, bearing in mind, its almost always bloody raining!..........."And Pedro Delgado has sprouted wings!"............0
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xpro wrote:Now I am more confused than ever, are these things actually any good or not? I really dont want to have to wrap my bike computer in plastic in the rain, bearing in mind, its almost always bloody raining!
I've had condensation under the screen of my 50 but not any of the others. I do ride in all weathers.alanparsons wrote:The main reason Bryton is cheaper and less popular is a copyright clam against them in the USA from Garmin, which means they cannot be sold in North America.
This isn't so. The copyright claim was solely against the Bryton 30 which looked and functioned too close to the Garmin 500 for comfort. This is why the squarer Bryton 35 exists - it is identical to the 30 apart from the shape of the case. Furthermore, they are sold in the US (though the 30 wasn't). They are less popular because they are less known.
Basically, they are cheaper because ultimately, Garmin is the cool brand and cool is worth money. I'd toss a coin into the air as to which is actually the superior product. I think the Bryton is simpler but does have the odd functional benefit so swings and roundabouts. I think if they were priced the same then Garmin would be the obvious choice - but given the differential, I prefer Bryton. That said, they do need to work on the website - if they could just get it to be a bit faster and a bit more reliable then it would certainly be close to Garmin.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Had the 35 since January and very happy with it, got cadence and hrm stap which I would advise getting with it. Agree website is slow. Tried up-loading to strava but can't seem to do it, any thoughts on this would be appreciated. All in all good value for money.0
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mhj999 wrote:
When your in "stats" mode how does it tell you to take the next left etc?0 -
Never had a problem with uploading to strava (apart from once). Just go to 'My Data' -> 'My Collection', tick the 'historical' rides you want uploaded and press the 'upload to strava' button. It'll prompt for your strava login info.0
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I have a 35 which I bought on a great deal at £90 for cadence and HRM.
Would recommend it given the price difference against the Garmin 500. Uploading can be a bit slow as the website isn't the most intuative in the world but the unit itself is really good so far.
To upload to Strava there are 2 ways, either do what was said above or save as a GPX file on your computer then go into Strava and upload that file, just takes a couple of minutes to do.
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Just a quick question to anyone using the Bryton or the Edge 500. Ref the breadcrumb navigation, Does it prompt you when you need to turn or do you have to just make sure you follow it? How do each unit go about making sure you follow the route in the plan?0
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On the Bryton 35, you just have to follow it. As you pass each waypoint, the breadcrumbs change to the next waypoint-2-waypoint path.
if you come off of the route, the image changes to a more fuller view of the route so you can head back to the nearest point.
You can also add "distance to", "arrow to" and "time to" waypoint indicators in the breadcrumbs screen.
Sometimes I think it's best to stick waypoints on the turnings so you're heading to that in particular. Sometimes it's more convenient to have the junctions mid-waypoint so you can see the actual direction of turn coming in the breadcrumbs.0 -
g00se wrote:Never had a problem with uploading to strava (apart from once). Just go to 'My Data' -> 'My Collection', tick the 'historical' rides you want uploaded and press the 'upload to strava' button. It'll prompt for your strava login info.
Thanks, g00se. Just done it. Think I wasn't ticking rides previously, 'derr'.
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g00se wrote:On the Bryton 35, you just have to follow it. As you pass each waypoint, the breadcrumbs change to the next waypoint-2-waypoint path.
if you come off of the route, the image changes to a more fuller view of the route so you can head back to the nearest point.
You can also add "distance to", "arrow to" and "time to" waypoint indicators in the breadcrumbs screen.
Sometimes I think it's best to stick waypoints on the turnings so you're heading to that in particular. Sometimes it's more convenient to have the junctions mid-waypoint so you can see the actual direction of turn coming in the breadcrumbs.
I may need to recheck this but in my experience, you cannot control the sections shown on the navigation screen. I've done this by using different waypoints on the same route and getting the same result each time. The problem with this is that I sometimes found that the blob marking the end of the section obscured a junction which wasn't entirely helpful! Possibly I need to check again as I haven't used the navigation on that unit for a while.
This is also one of those places where the 40 differs - on that the route displayed is a more typical scrolling route. This is probably better though IMO it would be better if the scale was larger. Both do the job.Faster than a tent.......0
