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  • mouth
    mouth Posts: 1,195
    Conversely my monster in law has three (yes, THREE) dogs - kind of n+1 - and she thinks that all cyclists should be made to have a license, training, registration, insurance, helmets and high vis as a matter of compulsion.

    Discuss.
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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,415
    wow, u guys must have too much time on your hands, this is a thread for posting on when u are bored at work, not at the weekend!
    Oi! Who are you calling sad!??
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  • MattC59
    MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    Jeez, there's some ill informed horse sh!t being spouted in this thread :roll:
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  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    I can't see people picking up after their horse.
  • DrKJM
    DrKJM Posts: 271
    I can't see people picking up after their horse.


    Why not? It's good for the roses. Just run out with a coal shovel.
  • Lookyhere wrote:
    i d like to see a return to dog licences, retrictions on max number of dogs registered at an address - i suggest ONE -
    money raised from the licence @ £500 -would be used to employ many many more dog wardens to enforce the existing laws on dog xxxx which around here is endemic.
    fines would be draconian - ALL would dogs muzzelled and kept on leads at ALL times and ALL breeds - owners forced to pay for the treatment of their dog attacks, so compulsory insurance as well.
    there would be no dangerous dogs any more as these controls would ensure the safety of the general public.

    oh and im not a dog hater (bought up with dogs on a farm and hunted alot with them as well) i just dislike the vast majority of dog "lovers" who seem to think the rest of us should love their mutts (and the xxxx they produce) as much as they seem to think they do.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/pe ... -year.html


    How do you hunt with a muzzled dog on a lead?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,583
    I've had dogs pretty much all my life and would be happy to have a licence / insurance for ownership but £500 would be a ridiculous amount and would lead to many people either dumping their animals on the street or with the RSPCA and similar charities that would become overwhelmed. The worst owners just wouldn't bother at all. For me the answer is harsher penalties for people with out of control dogs irrespective of whether they attack anyone. I'm just back from a week by the sea and lost track of people who let their dogs run but had no control over them when they tried to call them back and that, together with people who don't clear up after them really gets on my t*ts.

    As for Staffies, I've recently had mine put down after 12 years and despite having had dogs all my life (often 3 or more at a time when I lived with my parents) I have never had a dog as gentle and kind. I never heard her growl at a person or dog and when I little girl was seriously ill she sensed it and used to cuddle up to her and my other daughter used to tie a doll to her back and make her jump horse jumps! We never trained her in any way, she was just like it from the time we got her as a 1 year old from an animal sanctuary. All other responsibly owned Staffies I've come across have been the same. However, despite her being very small for her breed we did always keep her on a lead in public simply because of the way they are portrayed in the media. Most of the dogs you see act aggressively are either specifically trained to do so by the owners and / or are mixed with other breeds to deliberately create an aggressive dog.

    After having the staffie put down we agreed not to have another as we felt we'd never get another dog as good as her but after a week of nagging from the wife and kids I've just relented and we've picked up a Cockapoo pup. I'll continue to keep her on the lead whilst out and respect the fact that not everyone likes dogs though and if a £500 licence ever came in we'd just have to find the money as the house just doesn't feel the same without a dog and some opinionated person who dislikes dogs won't stop me owning one.
  • Pross wrote:
    I've had dogs pretty much all my life and would be happy to have a licence / insurance for ownership but £500 would be a ridiculous amount and would lead to many people either dumping their animals on the street or with the RSPCA and similar charities that would become overwhelmed. The worst owners just wouldn't bother at all. For me the answer is harsher penalties for people with out of control dogs irrespective of whether they attack anyone. I'm just back from a week by the sea and lost track of people who let their dogs run but had no control over them when they tried to call them back and that, together with people who don't clear up after them really gets on my t*ts.

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    Ahem... I always pick up, but I will confess to owning a rescue springer that likes to chase birds and bark at other dogs and a labrador that is selectively deaf when there are other dogs to play with or children to bother. They are generally pretty well behaved though.
    However, I do try to keep them on a lead when there is the liklihood of encountering people or dogs as I recognise not everyone likes being accosted by a greedy, attention seeking lab.
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  • bdu98252
    bdu98252 Posts: 171
    Dogs are clearly an illustration of consequence. Put a toddler in a room with a hamster and what is the worst that could happen. Put it in a room with large dog breed what is the worst that could happen. I live in the country next to people with groups of dogs of more than three per household. Whilst i am confident that if I was attacked I could defend myself I know that a 2 year old child could not. Equally would I let my child play at a friends house with multiple staffies or other large animals?

    If you are out in public or on my property and your dog will not return to heel on request or is not on a lead then i am quite happy to kill or injure the dog to protect me or my family. The dangerous dog act is very broad and more dog owners should read it as they consistently run the risk of a member of the public identifying them and pushing for the dog to be put down if it is any way aggressive in a public place.
  • ilm_zero7
    ilm_zero7 Posts: 2,213
    Pross wrote:
    I've had dogs pretty much all my life and would be happy to have a licence / insurance for ownership but £500 would be a ridiculous amount and would lead to many people either dumping their animals on the street or with the RSPCA and similar charities that would become overwhelmed. The worst owners just wouldn't bother at all. For me the answer is harsher penalties for people with out of control dogs irrespective of whether they attack anyone. I'm just back from a week by the sea and lost track of people who let their dogs run but had no control over them when they tried to call them back and that, together with people who don't clear up after them really gets on my t*ts.

    .

    Ahem... I always pick up, but I will confess to owning a rescue springer that likes to chase birds and bark at other dogs and a labrador that is selectively deaf when there are other dogs to play with or children to bother. They are generally pretty well behaved though.
    However, I do try to keep them on a lead when there is the liklihood of encountering people or dogs as I recognise not everyone likes being accosted by a greedy, attention seeking lab.

    agreed, and take the same precautions..... dogs are sociable animals. They like interaction with dogs and people, but if i see another dog is on a lead, mine go on too, but oddly that is almost a guarantee of a barking and tugging session as they regard being put on a lead as the precursor of trouble
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  • Oh jebus, the Springer is even worse on her lead. I have no idea what's up with her, I think she just wants to chase them and be chased back, as play but due to poor socialisation at the hands of a gundog trainer as a pup, she doesn't know how.

    If she sees another dog (whilst off her lead), she'll charge up, bark in it's face, run off again and repeat until either the other dog runs around with her or tells her off. You can see why some people don't like her.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent