BS 6102/3 Cycle Light
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What is it about this standard that means that the vast majority of lights on the market, aimed at road cyclists, do not conform to it?
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Can't find the right link at the mo' for the current legislation, but there's a good prècis on this page on CTC.
Are you concerned about P.C. Shiny Buttons pulling you over or a smart-@rse defence lawyer trying to slip out of a RTC claim due to your having poundland lights?Location: ciderspace0 -
Neither. To be honest I wasn't really aware of the issue but i had to replace a light (Cateye is a well known brand) and was surprised that the light I bought (EL-135) had some small print stating that they should be used in conjunction with a BS6102/3 cycle light.
A bit of a google and it appears this is a long known problem but for me the question is why is a big brand like Cateye failing to comply with most of their popular lights? Is the standard out of date and just need updating to take account of modern LEDs?
Has the fashion for LEDs in car lights led to any approval issues?0 -
Decathlon sell various german k marked lights, which probably come under "or equivalent"...0
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There is a BSI Cateye rear light: http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/access ... gle#281667
and various others out there, but as said the German standard is legal under EU reciprocation rules as I understand it. BSI standard lights are actually quite pathetic, e.g. the front ones are usually krypton bulb ones and no use for actually seeing where you are going on an unlit road.0 -
nigglenoo wrote:There is a BSI Cateye rear light: http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/access ... gle#281667
and various others out there, but as said the German standard is legal under EU reciprocation rules as I understand it. BSI standard lights are actually quite pathetic, e.g. the front ones are usually krypton bulb ones and no use for actually seeing where you are going on an unlit road.
that light has been around for years - i had one , my wife still does!! Compared to most modern led lights it's huge!
interestingly, led front lights don't need to confrom to BSI if they only flash. Most seem to have a steady state too, in which case they have to meet BSI. I reckon a manufacturer could make a cheapish flasher and market it as "legal". If anyone is worried about plod/lawyers, they can have it in conjunction with thier normal light of choice to cover themselves....
lidl/aldi lights (at bike time) also tend to be german k marked btw....0 -
Re the Cateye TL-AU100BS, it may be largish but at least it includes a BSI reflector as well.PBo wrote:nigglenoo wrote:There is a BSI Cateye rear light: http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/access ... gle#281667
and various others out there, but as said the German standard is legal under EU reciprocation rules as I understand it. BSI standard lights are actually quite pathetic, e.g. the front ones are usually krypton bulb ones and no use for actually seeing where you are going on an unlit road.
that light has been around for years - i had one , my wife still does!! Compared to most modern led lights it's huge!
interestingly, led front lights don't need to confrom to BSI if they only flash. Most seem to have a steady state too, in which case they have to meet BSI. I reckon a manufacturer could make a cheapish flasher and market it as "legal". If anyone is worried about plod/lawyers, they can have it in conjunction with thier normal light of choice to cover themselves....
lidl/aldi lights (at bike time) also tend to be german k marked btw....
Re flashing only lights: same rules for front and rear, both must be a constant even flash, 1-4 x per second and must emit at least 4 candela. http://www.ctc.org.uk/cyclists-library/ ... egulations Unfortunately virtually all flashing LEDs sold also have a constant mode so will not meet requirements unless BSI or K marked :?
Re Lidl/Aldi: Lidl had lights for sale last Thursday, the front one was a rechargeable LED, there may be some left in people's local branches. Price was quite reasonable I think.0 -
Other BSI lights:
http://www.eurolightmarketing.com/products.aspx?id=2# The EL156 is a BSI LED rear light and includes BSI reflector (the EL123 is also BSI but is an ancient krypton bulb design so will eat batteries)
This set is BSI but unfortunately the front is a krypton bulb light:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165636
This set is BSI with a front LED but is expensive and the one review is very bad re quality:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... 65636#tab1
Best go to Decathlon, I think some of the Sigma brand stuff is K marked? Eg this appears to be in the close up: http://www.decathlon.co.uk/cuberider-ii ... #avantages0 -
i agree with you,there may be some left in people's local branches. Price was quite reasonable I think.
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