Change from Shimano to Campy and what did you notice ?

thegreatdivide

Bar Shaker wrote:

thegreatdivide wrote:

g00se wrote:

I think the best way to describe the differences are the sounds:

Shimano; "snick-snick-snickety-snick".
Campag: "TANG-TANG-T-T-T-TANG".

Or

Shimano: click, click, shift
Campagnolo: click, shift

and

Di2: shift.

Di2 is the poor man's EPS.

nevman

Interesting,I have all three but prefer SRAM as it never needs adjusting.And double tap is instinctive after a while.

il_principe

As many others have said - it's the positive feedback you get from Campy that I prefer. I run 08 Chorus on one bike and EPS on the other. Love how you still get the feedback from EPS, something i understand is missing from Di2. I also prefer the aesthetics of Campagnolo. Have owned Shimano before, but am happier with Campag. Both are excellent.

chrispsmith83

Campy make sexual looking groupsets, does anyone think that Shim makes your bike look like it has a pair of massive antlers sticking out the front? im sure someone thought i was a deer last time I was out and tried to shoot me

Velonutter

Please lads it is Campag or Campagnolo, not Campy....thanks!

chrispsmith83

Even Campy call themselves Campy...

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/techinfo/index.jsp

rolf_f

chrispsmith83 wrote:

Campy make sexual looking groupsets, does anyone think that Shim makes your bike look like it has a pair of massive antlers sticking out the front? im sure someone thought i was a deer last time I was out and tried to shoot me

I always thing they look like rhinos somehow. No bike can look pretty with Shimano hoods on it!

dennisn

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

Flexisurfer

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

dennisn

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

You're absolutely right. I simply like to ride and, for me, basically it's "just a bike". I own a lugged steel bike with a chrome fork. Why? Because I refuse to ride what the advert's tell me I'm supposed to ride. Plus I refuse to ride what everyone else has - carbon frames that, IMHO, many of which sort of look like a dog taking a sh*t.

meesterbond

chrispsmith83 wrote:

Even Campy call themselves Campy...

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/techinfo/index.jsp

Well they're wrong.

proto

If anyone else says Campy I am going to get very, very cross. It's Campag.

thegreatdivide

proto wrote:

If anyone else says Campy I am going to get very, very cross. It's Campag.

It should really be 'Campa' as in Cam-pa-nyollo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAe6JtowkXo

Paul E

This thread is very funny, I thought fanboyism was bad when it came to games consoles but this is a whole new level

meesterbond

Paul E wrote:

This thread is very funny, I thought fanboyism was bad when it came to games consoles but this is a whole new level

You're joking... this has barely got going yet. There's another 15 pages to be had if the debate gets properly heated.

FWIW gears and shifters don't actually have a soul and certainly aren't capable of imparting a soul on other inanimate objects. I use Campag Record on my summer road bike because it shifts well, it's light and looks pretty. I have SRAM Force on my TT bike and it also shifts (reasonably) well and it was what the bike came with. I have Tiagra on my CX bike and the shifting is just about passable - unless it's covered in mud when it doesn't really work at all.

It takes approximately no time at all to mentally switch from one to another, neither Shimano nor Campag are inherently more comfortable than the other (the SRAM has bar-end shifters so it's not a fair comparison) and I've never really understood the arguement that the hoods are more comfortable on one or another.

I'd happily have Record / SR, Red or Dura-Ace on my best bike (although SR EPS as a preference / dream).

letap73

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

No it doesn't have soul, a groupset is a mechanical inorganic object - unless of course you watched Transformers and thought it was real life.

thegreatdivide

letap73 wrote:

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

No it doesn't have soul, a groupset is a mechanical inorganic object - unless of course you watched Transformers and thought it was real life.

Depends on what you call a soul.

There’s not much difference between Tranformers, an organised religion (although they’re about as organised as my tool box) or 'cosmic essence' - it's all made up cack.

If someone wants to believe their groupset has a soul then that’s up to them.

andi1363

letap73 wrote:

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

No it doesn't have soul, a groupset is a mechanical inorganic object - unless of course you watched Transformers and thought it was real life.

Whoosh!

the_cyclist_of_catan

I went from Shimano 105 (5600) to Campagnolo Athena (11-speed).

FWIW, I prefer the Campagnolo. The hoods suit my hand shape better, and the levers are in the right place/right length. I find the thumb levers work just fine, and appreciate having one lever per function - when I grab for a brake lever, it performs as a brake lever, it doesn't try to go sideways and shift gears. In terms of smoothness, I think the Shimano setup was a little smoother/quieter, but that might be down to my Campagnolo front mech needing some adjustment and now running a compact (rather than the double on 105). The Campagnolo rear mech works better, getting the right number of shifts every time, and needs less (ie no) adjustment). But that's just my experience, from a sample size of one.

Raffles

:roll: jeezus arguing over one calling it campy and another calling it campag......only on bikeradar :roll:

im calling it keith from now on so can we let the campy / campag pi$$ing match cease now.

rolf_f

Raffles wrote:

:roll: jeezus arguing over one calling it campy and another calling it campag......only on bikeradar :roll:

:roll: Jeezus - folks believing that BR is the only forum home to inconsequential pedantry

simon_masterson

Rolf F wrote:

Raffles wrote:

:roll: jeezus arguing over one calling it campy and another calling it campag......only on bikeradar :roll:

:roll: Jeezus - folks believing that BR is the only forum home to inconsequential pedantry

This.

However if we're to argue about the aesthetics of brifters, they all look pudgy. Old-school aero levers win out in the looks dept.

LegendLust

Raffles wrote:

:roll: jeezus arguing over one calling it campy and another calling it campag......only on bikeradar :roll:

im calling it keith from now on so can we let the campy / campag pi$$ing match cease now.

Raffles, I'll give you some advice. Instead of asking questions like this and getting all sorts of inane answers, why not go to an LBS and try the shifters for yourself - or better still ask some cycling buddies if you could try their bikes/shifters?

Only you will know which is best for you. I'm a Campag man through and through, but I've tried Shimano and SRAM equipment out cos I've got a good relationship with my LBS and plenty of cycling buddies with differing groupsets and equipment.

rolf_f

Simon Masterson wrote:

However if we're to argue about the aesthetics of brifters, they all look pudgy. Old-school aero levers win out in the looks dept.

But so less when applied to a less than pretty frame saddled with a ghastly hipster "aero" fixie wheelset!

edten

Brands may not have a soul but they generate emotions. Some better than others.

jonny_trousers

letap73 wrote:

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

No it doesn't have soul, a groupset is a mechanical inorganic object - unless of course you watched Transformers and thought it was real life.

Oh dear, someone smarting over the fact they went for Shimano?

simon_masterson

Rolf F wrote:

Simon Masterson wrote:

However if we're to argue about the aesthetics of brifters, they all look pudgy. Old-school aero levers win out in the looks dept.

But so less when applied to a less than pretty frame saddled with a ghastly hipster "aero" fixie wheelset!

Quite, but the picture I wanted wouldn't work.

letap73

andi1363 wrote:

letap73 wrote:

Flexisurfer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

What would I notice? That I had different shifters on my bike. Other than that, nothing.
You press levers to make the gears change. This involves moving a finger(or thumb) about a half an inch or so, on all of them. How much is there to notice in that? :roll:

To you a bike is just a bike, but a bike with Campagnolo has a soul and you can feel it.

No it doesn't have soul, a groupset is a mechanical inorganic object - unless of course you watched Transformers and thought it was real life.

Whoosh!

I'm sure the most rabid Camp{insert appropriate ending here] fanboys do actually believe it does have soul!
I'm happy with any of Shimano/SRAM/Camp[insert appropriate ending here].

chrispsmith83

Haha, this is brilliant,

For those doubting the name why don't you check out Campy on youtube or the Mad for Campy section on the actual Campagnolo website, oh and don't forget to make a quick stop off at the Campy Tech lab before you leave.

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/community/index.jsp

I really don't care what it's called but im sure the actual company know how to refer to themselves.

Raffles

Rolf F wrote:

Simon Masterson wrote:

However if we're to argue about the aesthetics of brifters, they all look pudgy. Old-school aero levers win out in the looks dept.

But so less when applied to a less than pretty frame saddled with a ghastly hipster "aero" fixie wheelset!

I must be a member of a minority group then as Im all for those retro looking bikes with skinnier tubes, the shand skinnymalinky and some of the mercians are exactly what floats my boat. Personally I think some of the more modern carbons with huge F-Off tubes are displeasing to my eye and I dig the look of 27.2mm seatposts a lot more than bigger chunkier types. I think the frame in the pic looks fine but I wouldnt be so keen on owning a fixie myself.