Caliper change...

prb007
prb007 Posts: 703
edited March 2013 in MTB workshop & tech
Got a sh@gged Avid Code 5 caliper...
Can I swap for this... http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=87334
straight swap? i.e. same lever and hose, fit new olive and bleed??
If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
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  • maringirl
    maringirl Posts: 195
    The Code is a dual piston caliper - the caliper you link to is single piston? Avid have different olives & inserts from Shimano brakes so how these would fit together I'm not sure. Avid also used a hose with a swaged end at the caliper end so not sure how fittings would work. Every make/model of brake is carefully designed to function as a unit - so it is highly likely that you should keep like with like?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    prb007 wrote:
    Got a sh@gged Avid Code 5 caliper...
    Can I swap for this... http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=87334
    straight swap? i.e. same lever and hose, fit new olive and bleed??
    no you can not.

    for many many reasons.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • prb007
    prb007 Posts: 703
    nicklouse wrote:
    prb007 wrote:
    Got a sh@gged Avid Code 5 caliper...
    Can I swap for this... http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=87334
    straight swap? i.e. same lever and hose, fit new olive and bleed??
    no you can not.

    for many many reasons.

    and these reasons would be....
    (what Maringirl said?)
    Would ths lever push too much fluid for the caliper to work properly?
    Or is it just a 'very bad idea'?
    Looking to repair it cheaply, cos am hoping for a new steed later in the year...
    If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
    Planet X Ti Sportive for Sportives & tours
    Orange Alpine 160 for Afan,Alps & dodging trees
    Singlespeed Planet X Kaffenback for dodging potholes
    An On-One Inbred for hard-tail shenanigans...
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    the first one is the seals are not compatible.

    so end of. the rest does not matter.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • prb007
    prb007 Posts: 703
    nicklouse wrote:
    the first one is the seals are not compatible.

    so end of. the rest does not matter.

    which seals?
    elaborate man, my crystal ball is sh@gged, too...
    If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
    Planet X Ti Sportive for Sportives & tours
    Orange Alpine 160 for Afan,Alps & dodging trees
    Singlespeed Planet X Kaffenback for dodging potholes
    An On-One Inbred for hard-tail shenanigans...
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    any, all take your pick.

    one uses DOT brake fluid and the other uses Mineral.

    the seals are not cross compatible.

    it will not work.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    As Nick says, the seals in a Shimano caliper are designed for mineral fluid, not DOT and will likely fail in short order, the olive dimensions may not be the same, and the piston diameter may not be similar enough so as to match the ratio the Avid lever is designed for, but I doubt anyone will have tested that as the seal issue is the main one.

    Get an Avid caliper!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • prb007
    prb007 Posts: 703
    just pulled the trigger on this... http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Shimano-M575-Bl ... _33252.htm
    blagged another fiver off, by posting a review on a helmet I bought off Tredz, recently (they give you a £5 voucher whenever you post a review - which is nice:) )
    If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
    Planet X Ti Sportive for Sportives & tours
    Orange Alpine 160 for Afan,Alps & dodging trees
    Singlespeed Planet X Kaffenback for dodging potholes
    An On-One Inbred for hard-tail shenanigans...
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Should have got a 596..Newer, cheaper, better.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • prb007
    prb007 Posts: 703
    cooldad wrote:
    Should have got a 596..Newer, cheaper, better.
    Yes...but is it WHITE?
    If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
    Planet X Ti Sportive for Sportives & tours
    Orange Alpine 160 for Afan,Alps & dodging trees
    Singlespeed Planet X Kaffenback for dodging potholes
    An On-One Inbred for hard-tail shenanigans...
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    prb007 wrote:
    cooldad wrote:
    Should have got a 596..Newer, cheaper, better.
    Yes...but is it WHITE?
    No but you have my sympathy.
    I don't do smileys.

    There is no secret ingredient - Kung Fu Panda

    London Calling on Facebook

    Parktools
  • prb007
    prb007 Posts: 703
    I have white brakes and Wales are 6N champs - how good is my weekend! ;)
    If Wales was flattened out, it'd be bigger than England!
    Planet X Ti Sportive for Sportives & tours
    Orange Alpine 160 for Afan,Alps & dodging trees
    Singlespeed Planet X Kaffenback for dodging potholes
    An On-One Inbred for hard-tail shenanigans...
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    About 50% good, I have decent brakes, so mine is 50% as well........ :wink:
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.

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