A question of etiquette
slowmart
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So I have a mtb helmet which I use on the road bike. I've taken the peak off but am I breaking some unwritten rule and thereby looking a complete knob.*
* And before anyone suggests I may look like a knob anyway please amend to "more of a knob"
* And before anyone suggests I may look like a knob anyway please amend to "more of a knob"
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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If it's comfy and you like it that's all that matters, stuff what others think
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Until last week I used a MTB lid on my roadbike.
Post a pic and we can decide?0 -
Did exactly the same with my recenty deceased Bell MTB helmet...nobody appeared to notice and it saved a few pounds.. Don't worry about what other people think as opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. Muddy Fox Hardtail Circa 1998
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If I thought wearing a MTB helment on the road would upset the smug, self-appointed guardians of the "Rules", I'd go out and buy one immediately.0
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Is there any difference between a MTB helmet without the peak and a road helmet? I used an MTB helmet without the peak for years, it looked like every other Giro helmet I saw. The rules are just a joke (a few funny but most crap), ride what is comfortable, fits and complies with a recognised testing standard.0
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If you like your helmet then use it,personally i couldn,t tell them apart,but wouldnt not use it incase it offended some gok wannabe.Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori0
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Gpfanuk wrote:Did exactly the same with my recenty deceased Bell MTB helmet...nobody appeared to notice and it saved a few pounds.. Don't worry about what other people think as opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.
Except piers morgan who appears to have grown one on his face where his mouth should be and and keeps spouting c@@p out of it Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.0 -
I use my MTB helmet with the peak! I already had it and when I needed to replace it last year I bought another one!0
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Just don't look in the mirror wearing the helmet.
Whether I look like a knob on my bike is the least of my worries. If they're faster than me, they won't care, and if I'm faster than them, I won't.Is the gorilla tired yet?0 -
+1arran77 wrote:If it's comfy and you like it that's all that matters, stuff what others thinkTail end Charlie
The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.0 -
ChrisAOnABike wrote:Whether I look like a knob on my bike is the least of my worries. If they're faster than me, they won't care, and if I'm faster than them, I won't.
This. Case closed, M'lud.0 -
If you really want to stir things up....wear a Full Face Motorbike helmet !! lolA Brother of the Wheel. http://www.boxfordbikeclub.co.uk
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Well that's alright then.
Thanks for the replies.“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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I'm wearing an "MTB" helmet without the peak just now. I'm buying a new "Road" helmet as the current one is getting a bit tired. There's not a lot of difference between them, supposedly the new one is 30g lighter, but I'll never notice that.
If it's comfy and isn't damaged, keep wearing it.0 -
Etiquette does have a place in most sports but if it is to the degree that it discourages people from taking part in said sport maybe there is something wrong. Wear what you like, get out on the bike and enjoy.0
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No, OP you have removed the peak and are on the right track. These threads are always met with responses from those who take a perverse pride in their ghastly hairy legs, black socks and WC jerseys. It's not a question of 'etiquette' as such. You will never be as fast as you want to be, but certain standards are easier to maintain.0
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+1. Many of us will never ride like a pro but we can all look pro :-)Yellow is the new Black.0
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What purpose does a peak serve? And does it do it's job?Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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I carried on wearing my MTB lid when I first took to the road. The peak used to keep rain off my specs and was handy for shielding my eyes from oncoming headlights sometimes. However, when after several years the flimsy retention mechanism broke, I replaced it with a road version which was a lot lighter and much better ventilated. I also suspect that helped to eliminate the neck pain I'd been getting with the MTB one.0
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Helps keep the sun out of your eyes mostly, and yes it does work. The problem with it on a road bike is that it's too long and you have to try and hold your head up further which gives you neck-ache. I think that's the main reason "road" helmets don't have peaks.seanoconn wrote:What purpose does a peak serve? And does it do it's job?
Other than peak attachments, there's nothing to choose really. Taking the Specialized range as an example, their road and MTB helmet designs are almost identical.0 -
Ah, got it now. Thanks.Mikey41 wrote:
Helps keep the sun out of your eyes mostly, and yes it does work. The problem with it on a road bike is that it's too long and you have to try and hold your head up further which gives you neck-ache. I think that's the main reason "road" helmets don't have peaks.seanoconn wrote:What purpose does a peak serve? And does it do it's job?
Other than peak attachments, there's nothing to choose really. Taking the Specialized range as an example, their road and MTB helmet designs are almost identical.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0 -
There will obviously be people that are gullible and like to conform, so they buy 'road' products to fit in, but frankly the aesthetic differences between some (by no means all) MTB helmets with the peak removed and most typical 'road' helmets are pretty small. Purely in that respect the argument is pretty pointless, because in either case it is still a piece of expanded polystyrene. Some look distinctly better than others, I grant you, but a plastic hat it still is.
In terms of any dedicated performance enhancement for 'real world' road cycling, there's little to speak of. A closer fitting helmet will doubtless be more aerodynamic than a big mushroom-headed thing, but if it really mattered then all of the pro teams would be using closed-vent lids, and most of them are not. If you really want a helmet that makes you faster, you want a proper TT hat.
As for the peak, I was sceptical of those long before I had any interest in 'serious road cycling'. I don't want that near my face if I do faceplant the tarmac or instinctively shield my face to avoid doing so. If you only ride your bike in a relaxed, upright position, it probably won't hinder your vision unduly, but you could also opt for a cap; flexible, adjustable, wicking, warm if needed, interchangeable for the season or weather, and aesthetically less incongruous.
But you'll almost certainly buy more than one helmet in your lifetime, so just buy a 'road' one next time. 0 -
keef66 wrote:However, when after several years the flimsy retention mechanism broke, I replaced it with a road version which was a lot lighter and much better ventilated
The weight will be an issue over specific models - not the fact that one was a road helmet and the other an MTB helmet. My Giro Havoc (an MTB helmet but, with the visor off, a lid that looks like virtually every other Giro helmet ever made) that I got about 4 years ago when I started cycling cost about £50 and is lighter than a Giro Ionos that retailed at three times that...........Faster than a tent.......0 -
Your only a Knob if you don't wear a helmet!
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Rolf F wrote:keef66 wrote:However, when after several years the flimsy retention mechanism broke, I replaced it with a road version which was a lot lighter and much better ventilated
The weight will be an issue over specific models - not the fact that one was a road helmet and the other an MTB helmet. My Giro Havoc (an MTB helmet but, with the visor off, a lid that looks like virtually every other Giro helmet ever made) that I got about 4 years ago when I started cycling cost about £50 and is lighter than a Giro Ionos that retailed at three times that...........
I wasn't implying road helmets are generally heavier, but there was a noticeable difference in my case. The old one was a Cratoni which must've been over 12 years old, and the new one a Giro Atmos. I think the Giro just has more holes / less material.0 -
I thought MTB helmets covered the lower rear of your head better.
As such I would not wear a road helmet on my MTB (never mind the risk of fcuking it up!), but if you are happy with the look/feel of an MTB one on the road, go for it
Tape over the three little holes left by the peak though, or you will have 'aero' issues 0
