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Disc braked road bikes

dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
edited March 2013 in Road buying advice
Just wondering what the state of the nation is on this particular genre of road bikes. There have been a few early models available for a few years now, Genesis Day One, On-one various commuter bikes etc.

I'm looking for the following:
  • Ti or Carbon framed
  • Space and fitments for mudguards
  • Rack fittings (for future touring) a nice to have
  • Disc brakes
  • Alfine or Rohloff hub
  • reasonably light

I read in another thread on here what a ball ache Alfine equipped bikes with mudguards are if you get a puncture, so I'm wary of that.

What's available these days?

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  • smoggystevesmoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    Does anyone other than Colnago make a disc brake road bike yet?
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    SmoggySteve wrote:
    Does anyone other than Colnago make a disc brake road bike yet?

    Volagi make one, depends on your classification of road bike. I doubt there are any pro-tour disc braked road bikes, put it that way.

    I'm just looking for a new bike with discs, potentially for commuting on.
  • smoggystevesmoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    dodgy wrote:
    SmoggySteve wrote:
    Does anyone other than Colnago make a disc brake road bike yet?

    I doubt there are any pro-tour disc braked road bikes, put it that way.

    http://www.colnago.com/c59-disc/

    I beg to differ
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    SmoggySteve wrote:
    dodgy wrote:
    SmoggySteve wrote:
    Does anyone other than Colnago make a disc brake road bike yet?

    I doubt there are any pro-tour disc braked road bikes, put it that way.

    http://www.colnago.com/c59-disc/

    I beg to differ

    It's not a pro tour bike, discs are not approved on the UCI pro tour.

    Anyway, back to the topic. Any other suitable bikes out there?
  • smoggystevesmoggysteve Posts: 2,909
    Not yet but they will be soon, just a matter of time
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    Thanks for that information.
  • JamesBJamesB Posts: 1,184
    Van Nic Amazon ???
  • VTechVTech Posts: 4,736
    I have a friend who swears by Canyon and loves his bike but the callipers have seized several times in the last year or so.
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  • maddog 2maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    There are only a few pure road disc frames out there; Colnago (stupidmoney and lecky-only), Volagi (a proper munter to my eyes), Eastway RD1.0 (just looks old and boring, which is some going for a road disc bike...)

    The rest are CX types. It is happening slowly though - can't be long before a big player gets something decent to market. Canyon showed a proto but they aren't building it soon (I asked).

    However, there are a few Chinese frames coming through eg. Hongfu - see http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/html_produc ... e-287.html I emailed them and the F&F are $740 USD posted to the UK. No reviews yet though.
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    There's another Chinese frame, seen stickered up as 'Apace' (German brand I think)
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    Some of the CX-type bikes include:

    Lynskey Sportive Disc
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    Felt do a disc CXer F1X and F3X
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    Ibis do the Hakkalügi Disc
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    Cannondale SuperX Disc
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    Plus Ridley, Raleigh and a few others.

    Then there are a few on the drawing board, e.g.

    the oddly-named Culprit Croz-Blade
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  • MattC59MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    Enigma, they'll build you exactly what you're after in Ti. Sounds like a modified version of their Etape would suit nicely.

    In fact when I went in to spec my Esprit, there was a guy collecting his an Etape which was exactly as you describe, but with a Rolhoff hub. I seem to remember that pics of it are somewhere on their Facebook page. Scroll through to about July and you should find them.
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  • markos1963markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    Orbea did a disc braked carbon framed model a few years ago, the Diem Drop I think it was called.
    Norfolk, who nicked all the hills?

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/243 ... 8d.jpg?v=0
    http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 076tl5.jpg
    http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3407 ... e001af.jpg
  • extrusionextrusion Posts: 247
    So whats the difference with they cyclocross bikes? Tyres? More clearance? Surely you could take that cannondale and put slicks on and you're sorted?
  • Monty DogMonty Dog Posts: 20,614
    They're not that new - I was running discs on the road about 8 years ago. CX bikes have bigger tyre clearances and many have a lower BB drop on the frame to give better ground clearance so they do ride a little higher than a road bike which can feel at little odd at first - but you soon get used to it. Some of the US-design frames do have a BB drop more akin to road bikes and a new sub-genre of 'gravel bikes' has evolved in the US which are effectively disc-equipped road/CX like the Salsa Warbird:
    http://salsacycles.com/bikes/warbird
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  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    edited March 2013
    extrusion wrote:
    So whats the difference with they cyclocross bikes? Tyres? More clearance? Surely you could take that cannondale and put slicks on and you're sorted?

    The biggest difference is gearing, CX usually comes with 46x36 which is not ideal for the road, and as another poster says, more ground clearance on a CX. Also, CX frames are often slightly beefier to cope with the rigours of offroad.

    I would prefer to have an actual road bike with discs, thankfully, manufacturers are starting to gear up for disc braked roadbikes regardless of what the UCI think.
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    Thanks for the info folks, nice list there maddog2.

    Perhaps this could be our own holding area to post up new disc equipped road bikes.

    Specialized Secteur Sport disc here http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/p/9193 ... -bike-2013 Looks like the UK doesn't get the expert model which has 105.
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    Specialized Roubaix Expert http://www.evanscycles.com/products/spe ... gn=froogle
  • lickolicko Posts: 72
    Rose do a pretty good looking disc road bike:
    http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/products/bik ... n-dx-2013/
    Good spec for the money, I was very tempted, but I'm going to wait until hydraulics become standard.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,045
    Licko wrote:
    Rose do a pretty good looking disc road bike:
    http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/products/bik ... n-dx-2013/
    Good spec for the money, I was very tempted, but I'm going to wait until hydraulics become standard.

    It is seriously ugly, but very well equipped for the money... at BikeLab in Richmond for that money you get a helmet and maybe a pair of gloves... :mrgreen:
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  • maddog 2maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    I think the Rose is tidy. Not carbon though. There are planty of alu disc bikes out there too - see Boardman... and BMC do quite a nice one.

    The CX frame thing is a bit more weight, longer chainstays, BB drop (on some, but not all), and slacker angles. Not much in reality but it depends if you want a proper, lightweight roadie or just a do-anything type of bike. If it's the latter then you'll be fine (I run an Airborne Carpe Diem as my disc'd commuter) but a proper, lightweight roadie isn't quite there yet. It's just a shame the Colnago/Parlees are silly money and Specialized/Volagi's frame design is so horrid (to me)...
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  • lickolicko Posts: 72
    I agree the Rose isn't the most elegant looking machine, but there's not many sub 8kg standard braked road bikes on the market for £1700, you can't knock it for value. It's got road-ish geometry too rather than CX.
  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    I think that Rose is almost there, shame it doesn't appear to have mudguard mounts. I already have a Rose road bike, nice bit of kit, I'd buy another no problem.
  • MattC59MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    Here you go.......

    It's got a Rolhoff hub with disk rear brake and calliper front, but there's no reason why Enigma wouldn't put a disk on the front too.
    Photo courtesy of Enigma's Facebook page.

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  • maddog 2maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    somewhat odd bike - why no disc on the front?

    After all, that's what does the majority of the hard braking.
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  • MattC59MattC59 Posts: 5,408
    maddog 2 wrote:
    somewhat odd bike - why no disc on the front?

    After all, that's what does the majority of the hard braking.

    No idea, it's not mine. The owner was being fitted when I went in to be measured up for my Esprit
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  • dodgydodgy Posts: 2,890
    Reading around on here, I'm starting to get really put off by hub geared bikes, they appear to be a major pita for punctures/removing rear wheel.

    I like that Enigma though, ickle bike :)
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