UK and EU sizing nuisances when it comes to road shoes

Raffles
Raffles Posts: 1,137
edited March 2013 in Road general
I was looking at road shoes from wiggle, in particular their own dhb brand. Their size guide lists UK size 9 as having an equivalent EU size 44. Earlier in the week I went to LBS and tried on Shimano UK size 10 r087 road shoes which the sizing on the insole reads their EU equivalent is size 44.

So wiggle say an EU 44 is a UK 9
Shimano insole reads an EU 44 is a 10
A shimano online sizing chart says an EU 44 is halfway between a UK size 9.5 and UK size 10
My diadora UK size 9.5 says its EU equivalent is 44


THIS IS A TOTAL CROCK OF S**TE !! GOING ON HERE :x


I want to get the very best deal on a pair of road shoes and online is where those deals are. Without traipsing round shop after shop to try various shoes on , which I dont have time to do, Im left wondering what the hell do I do regarding this sizing conundrum.

Before all this euro cobblers, it was an 8 , or a 9...or a 10......and so on and now even buying a pair of bloody shoes is a lot more complicated than it need be. Anyone had this experience of being confused now that EU sizing has entered the equation .............I wish to goodness they had just stuck with UK sizing which we are all familiar with, Im only back from a country in the euro one and all that euro`s , cents and kilometres cr@p :roll: and I pray we never go that route.

Angry and frustrated shout over and thanks for reading.
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Comments

  • Strith
    Strith Posts: 541
    Basically I no longer buy clothing or shoes online unless I've bought the exact same ones before. It's the only way to be sure.

    I have nothing against the metric system.
  • I too have nothing against the metric system because it gave us a "Royale with Cheese".
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    Shit I know man its like they re a whole different country or something!!
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  • lotus49
    lotus49 Posts: 763
    Your blame is aimed in the wrong direction.

    Shoes are not really standard sizes so a UK size 10 pair of shoes will vary in size according to who made them so it doesn't really make any difference how you convert one sizing scheme to another.

    I am about a UK 9 1/2 and my pair of Shimano R087s EU size 44 fit me perfectly. I highly doubt that every pair of 44s would fit me as well. If you want to be sure, buy some at your LBS. Don't try some on at your LBS and then buy online though, that just isn't on.
  • I'll throw in another datapoint on the offchance it might help: I'm UK size 11 and Shimano size 47 seems to fit perfectly. I know what you mean though, before I got the shoes I looked at the sizing conversions on several sites and they all seem to differ from each other....
  • Ignore the numbers, try them on, buy what fits ! If you want them cheap off the internet buy a few pairs and send back what you don't need. Better still go to a decent shop with a good range and pay a few quid extra to walk out of the shop happy that you have tried on many models and ended up with the best ones for you. Ranting about euro sizes when that is the main market for most of these shoe brands is a bit pointless.
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    The only true consistent sizing in terms of foot wear is Mondo Point (also JP sizing). It's in centimeters and measures the inside shoe length from heel to toe. Keep in mind that depending on the brand half sizes do not exist and are simply a difference in the thickness of insole. All other sizing methods (US,UK, Euro) are brand and line dependent.
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  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Raffles wrote:


    THIS IS A TOTAL CROCK OF S**TE !! GOING ON HERE :x


    I want to get the very best deal on a pair of road shoes and online is where those deals are.


    But you cannot try them on.
    Raffles wrote:

    Without traipsing round shop after shop to try various shoes on , which I dont have time to do,

    Ypou seem to have plenty of time posting threads on here and visiting a Chiropractor
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Sizings are all over the place. This is true of all clothing/footwear items from all sectors/markets/retailers.

    That is the way it is, accept it. This is not unique to cycling shoes.

    If you want to be sure of fit, get to your LBS and try stuff on. If you are unable to do this accept that ordering on line is a lottery and you may have to send stuff back, order new sizes etc until you get the fit right.

    It is simply the facts, no more, no less. Just get on with it man :-)
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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Dont scare me guys! Just bought some Shimanos from the US size 43 as its the same size as my other Shimanos.

    I really hope they fit!
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    How old are you and how have you only just realised this ? All sizing is hit and miss. Everyone measures things differently.

    Some of my bike kit is Medium. Some of it XL.

    Its not often you need to buy bike shoes anyway - fit is paramount - its definitely worth the time trying them on - you might have them for years.

    I tried on about 10 pairs of walking boots before deciding on the ones I got. Bloody sods law that they were the priciest of them all - but worth it for the fit.
  • Pituophis
    Pituophis Posts: 1,025
    You think you've got problems, you want to try buying "adult styled" shoes/clothes when you're a short ars* and a UK size 6 :roll:
    Forget buying on the internet, and every trip to the shops is an adventure! :cry:
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Pituophis wrote:
    You think you've got problems, you want to try buying "adult styled" shoes/clothes when you're a short ars* and a UK size 6 :roll:
    Forget buying on the internet, and every trip to the shops is an adventure! :cry:

    But at least there is no VAT on childrens clothes :lol:
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  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    - UK sizes are in the past, so work in EU sizes.
    - Sizing is width as well as length, so you really have to try them on to work out if they fit.

    If you can't visit a shop for various reasons, the only way is trial and error (and return postage!)
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  • In general I find Euros and Cents relatively simple, there are 100 cents in a Euro. There are also 100 pence in a Pound.
  • Raffles
    Raffles Posts: 1,137
    I had ten quid in my paypal account so I ordered a pair of the dhb r1.0 road shoes from wiggle, this means I only had to add thirty five quid. Ordered them in size 45 as per advice from wiggle in an email, if they dont fit I can simply return them for another size. I got a mint set of 105 5700 road pedals from the classifieds here and the last thing to get is a set of SH11 cleats that allow float, tell the truth Im looking forward to taking the spd pedals off the caad and seeing how things go with the road shoes and road pedals.
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  • You'll take crud roadracers to the shop to have them fitted but won't use a shop to find shoes that fit well?
  • robbo2011
    robbo2011 Posts: 1,017
    The problem with the internet approach is that you really don't know which brand of shoe is going to fit properly. I went to an LBS to get mine, determined to get a pair of Shimanos. However after trying out all of the Shimanos, Specializeds and Northwaves in the shop, the only shoe brand that really fitted properly were Sidis. so Sidis it was.

    I think it is a mistake to pick a brand on the internet based on price and hope it fits properly, because the chances are the shoes won't be a perfect fit. Where shoes are concerned, a good fit is vital, IMO.