Should MTBs be called ATBs?

FocusZing
FocusZing Posts: 4,373
edited February 2013 in MTB general
Mountain Biking! I don't see any when I have walked up mountains.

All Terrain Bike is a much more accurate description.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    'All' though? How about just off road bikes?
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    supersonic wrote:
    'All' though? How about just off road bikes?

    That would work, more descriptive. I guess Most Terrain Bikes might get around any terrains which would make the description invalid. Lava flow, freshly laid concrete, ice...I'm sure there are others.
  • mintedox
    mintedox Posts: 273
    Aren't All terrain vehicles all wheel drive or am I being dumb
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    ATB were what they were called back in the day. an MTB is not an ATB.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • Vtt in French
    pity those who don't drink, the way they feel when they wake is the best they will feel all day


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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Mark909 wrote:

    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    dandy-horse.jpg

    He could do it on one of these, uncomfortable granted.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    nicklouse wrote:
    ATB were what they were called back in the day. an MTB is not an ATB.

    I do remember seeing them described as ATB when they mainly used Reynolds tubing.
  • Mark909
    Mark909 Posts: 456
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    How do you think they get up there? Levitate? Granted you'd be pushing a fair bit of the way however I see you for the troll you and so am leaving you to this thread.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Mark909 wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    How do you think they get up there? Levitate? Granted you'd be pushing a fair bit of the way however I see you for the troll you and so am leaving you to this thread.

    I'm not trolling, I would go to Crud for that. Mountain Biking is not a good description of the genre of cycling.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Quite right, absolutely shocking misuse of language. Once again I suggest a strongly worded letter to the Daily Mail.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    cooldad wrote:
    Quite right, absolutely shocking misuse of language. Once again I suggest a strongly worded letter to the Daily Mail.

    A fair point, it's bit pedantic.

    Road bikes used to be called racing bikes.
  • Mark909
    Mark909 Posts: 456
    Who cares! Just get out and ride instead of wasting your life away in internet forums :mrgreen:
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Woodmonkey wrote:
    Vtt in French

    Vélo Tout Terrain. I guess I agree with the French.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    FocusZing wrote:
    cooldad wrote:
    Quite right, absolutely shocking misuse of language. Once again I suggest a strongly worded letter to the Daily Mail.

    A fair point, it's bit pedantic.

    Road bikes used to be called racing bikes.
    No they didn't, they used to be called bicycles.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Mark909 wrote:
    Who cares! Just get out and ride instead of wasting your life away in internet forums :mrgreen:

    Ha, I'm no Tommy Godwin. I need a bit of a rest to consider the complexities of cycling.
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    FocusZing wrote:
    Mark909 wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    How do you think they get up there? Levitate? Granted you'd be pushing a fair bit of the way however I see you for the troll you and so am leaving you to this thread.

    I'm not trolling, I would go to Crud for that. Mountain Biking is not a good description of the genre of cycling.
    If you're not trolling then you're an idiot. I've ridden snowdon, and it's more than just letting gravity do the work. For starters, you can ride up about 80% of it on the right bike. Are you one of those lycra clad XC ladies that gets all butthurt when they see a downhiller getting a lift up the hill and still call it mountain biking?
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    ilovedirt wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Mark909 wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    How do you think they get up there? Levitate? Granted you'd be pushing a fair bit of the way however I see you for the troll you and so am leaving you to this thread.

    I'm not trolling, I would go to Crud for that. Mountain Biking is not a good description of the genre of cycling.
    If you're not trolling then you're an idiot. I've ridden snowdon, and it's more than just letting gravity do the work. For starters, you can ride up about 80% of it on the right bike. Are you one of those lycra clad XC ladies that gets all butthurt when they see a downhiller getting a lift up the hill and still call it mountain biking?

    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.
  • bmx stands for bicycle moto cross can we change the name to dossing about on the street bike as it's the primary function. and for the record mrs woodmonkey rides a carerra krakken canal towpath bike. doesn't have the same ring though
    pity those who don't drink, the way they feel when they wake is the best they will feel all day


    voodoo hoodoo
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Woodmonkey wrote:
    bmx stands for bicycle moto cross can we change the name to dossing about on the street bike as it's the primary function. and for the record mrs woodmonkey rides a carerra krakken canal towpath bike. doesn't have the same ring though

    Yes, it is all about marketing and creating an image. I got caught up in it as a kid with a BMX, the adds, films, tv coverage. Definitely the most useless bike I have had.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    FocusZing wrote:
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    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.

    you wouldn't have seen any dickface as there's a voluntary 'ban' on cycling at certain times of the year. it's to stop idiots like you walking in front of riders.

    really, just when i thought you were getting better it seems your meds have worn off.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Isn't it a rule that focusmong is only allowed to post in crudcatcher.
    I don't do smileys.

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    he escaped to the road section as well.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    nicklouse wrote:
    he escaped to the road section as well.
    First worthwhile thing he's ever done
    I don't do smileys.

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  • EH_Rob
    EH_Rob Posts: 1,134
    welshkev wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    [
    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.

    you wouldn't have seen any dickface as there's a voluntary 'ban' on cycling at certain times of the year. it's to stop idiots like you walking in front of riders.

    really, just when i thought you were getting better it seems your meds have worn off.

    He didn't even tell you when he went up it...
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    cooldad wrote:
    nicklouse wrote:
    he escaped to the road section as well.
    First worthwhile thing he's ever done


    not really

    viewtopic.php?f=40088&t=12906528
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    FocusZing wrote:
    ilovedirt wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Mark909 wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Bikes are for pedalling though, he's just sitting on a bike letting gravity do it's thing. If he rode up I'd take your point.

    How do you think they get up there? Levitate? Granted you'd be pushing a fair bit of the way however I see you for the troll you and so am leaving you to this thread.

    I'm not trolling, I would go to Crud for that. Mountain Biking is not a good description of the genre of cycling.
    If you're not trolling then you're an idiot. I've ridden snowdon, and it's more than just letting gravity do the work. For starters, you can ride up about 80% of it on the right bike. Are you one of those lycra clad XC ladies that gets all butthurt when they see a downhiller getting a lift up the hill and still call it mountain biking?

    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.
    What did you walk up? I rode up most of the llanberis path apart from the couple of steep bits...
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  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    EH_Rob wrote:
    welshkev wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    [
    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.

    you wouldn't have seen any dickface as there's a voluntary 'ban' on cycling at certain times of the year. it's to stop idiots like you walking in front of riders.

    really, just when i thought you were getting better it seems your meds have worn off.

    He didn't even tell you when he went up it...

    you're right, but i'm assuming that it was during the summer months when most people go. or it was in bad weather when no right minded person would've wanted to go up there :wink:
  • andy_welch
    andy_welch Posts: 1,101
    It's a bike and I ride it up and down various mountains near me (North East Scotland). Here it is on top of Ben Rinnes, for example.

    IMG_0383_zps6e464496.jpg

    So what else should I call it ?
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    welshkev wrote:
    EH_Rob wrote:
    welshkev wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    [
    I have walked up Snowdon three times I did not see one MTB. Ride up 80% of it? Towards the top the wind would blow you to your death (on the wrong day). If any do, it would be just to say they had, you could walk up faster.

    No, they are used on roads, trails and hills. I have nothing against Down Hill MTBs, it looks like fun. The reference to the Dandy Horse was not a snub, just the origin of the bike.

    I do idiotic things most days, no question.

    you wouldn't have seen any dickface as there's a voluntary 'ban' on cycling at certain times of the year. it's to stop idiots like you walking in front of riders.

    really, just when i thought you were getting better it seems your meds have worn off.

    He didn't even tell you when he went up it...

    you're right, but i'm assuming that it was during the summer months when most people go. or it was in bad weather when no right minded person would've wanted to go up there :wink:

    I have been up in the summer and winter too, when it was snow covered. Never seen MTBs up Ben Nevis, PenYfan and many others.

    Like I said the only reason you would go up on one is to just say you could, it's not something you would do on a regular basis.