setting sag

cookymonster

is there a certain amount of preasure you start with in your forks and rear shock before you set your sag ?

andrew

nicklouse

no just add or remove till you get what is right.

unless your manual have specific required settings stated in it.

lostboysaint

cookymonster wrote:

is there a certain amount of preasure you start with in your forks and rear shock before you set your sag ?

andrew

Rough guide is 25-30% sag. Don't forget that the rear shock doesn't actually move the distance of the travel so you'll need to check the shock travel and divide it by 3 or 4. Use that as a base guide (if you can't find any recommendations in the manual for the bike) and then work up or down from there until you get a ride that suits you.

nicklouse

lostboysaint wrote:

cookymonster wrote:

is there a certain amount of preasure you start with in your forks and rear shock before you set your sag ?

andrew

Rough guide is 25-30% sag.

sorry no.

it all depends on the bike/frame etc. there are no sag designs and for some of the longer travel harder hitting frames 50% in not unheard of.

cookymonster

ok cheers guys

lostboysaint

nicklouse wrote:

lostboysaint wrote:

cookymonster wrote:

is there a certain amount of preasure you start with in your forks and rear shock before you set your sag ?

andrew

Rough guide is 25-30% sag.

sorry no.

it all depends on the bike/frame etc. there are no sag designs and for some of the longer travel harder hitting frames 50% in not unheard of.

Hmmm, perhaps the fact that the question has been asked suggests that the OP is unlikely to be riding that sort of bike?! Perhaps also my comment of it being a starting point had been missed?

Going to come up with anything constructive instead of rubbishing some useful advice about where to START from?

The Spiderman

Another ball park is body weight in pounds as psi.

nicklouse

The Spiderman wrote:

Another ball park is body weight in pounds as psi.

nope.all that is good for is putting some air in a fork

travel. cross section and angle have so much effect saying body weight is as good as saying just put in 100psi and go from there.

it is really so simple and people try and over complicate it.

put some air in. got the sag you want? too much add more. not enough let some out.

got sag right? go ride and then start playing with the settings and pressures to suit a repeatable bit of trail.

The Spiderman

Good and fair advice Nick. Just gave him that advice as a point to start from. You are right though , base it on feel.
Though some people if they have not had a full suspension bike might not know what *right* feels like and run the risk of running too much sag and bottoming out the shock too often.

DCR00

My advice

If you want the most out of your suspension, spend some time reading up on how a fork/shock works, in particular how dampers work. Once you have some understanding of what's going on, you can start tuning your suspension and find what set up is for you and/or the conditions you ride. I started off with 25% on my trail bike, but after half a dozen rides and some damper tuning, it seems that 20% gets the most of the bike (for the way I ride).

The post above is spot in that without some understanding, how do you know what the fork/shock should be doing ?

Velonutter

cookymonster wrote:

ok cheers guys

Sorry cookymonster to off topic, but can you check out the user feedback thread here as you have upset a few people and you aren't replying to their emails or PM's: - viewtopic.php?f=40046&t=12905660#p18146780