More Nuclear Power Please & Not This

mr_goo

This is a simulated photo of the proposal for the worlds largest wind farm between the Isle of Wight and the Purbecks. An area of outstanding natural beauty. Yet this is likely to go ahead. I believe it is being scaled back a bit, but will still be the largest on the planet.

Garry H

Nah, that's fine. Can't be seen from where I'm standing anyway.

Cleat Eastwood

Theyre very small

team47b

soooo much better to have a nuclear power station set up in Burley the cooling towers could attract more grockles and they can take the toxic waste and dump it off Boscombe pier, as people in Boscombe won't mind :shock:

Or you could take some personal responsibility and use less electricity and stop respouting ill informed DM type comments

IMHO

capt_slog

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

Theyre very small

hmmm, or perhaps they're very far away.



Anyways, no objections from me. I have to look at a fecking great power station, these are much nicer to see.

tiredofwhiners

Mr Goo wrote:

An area of outstanding natural beauty.

Its a patch of sea with a few blips in the distance - thats not outstanding, its something you can see from pretty much any coast.

Presumably you'll be happy with having the extra nuclear waste dumped under your house, but hey, the view is nice

secretsam

I quite like wind turbines

They are certainly better looking than nuclear power stations

But then, the nuke station wouldn't be built where the OP could see it, would it?

As another poster has said, fit UV panels to your house and turn off the light when you leave a room

danlikesbikes

Can't see a problem with it myself - we have some in the distance I can see out of the window and I ride past them all the time.

I'd prefer that than the cost/danger of more nuclear power.

Frank the tank

Nuclear power IMHO is the only realistic way forward. Before anyone asks, it wouldn't worry me if they built one local to myself either.

Flexisurfer

Living in East Anglia we have a few of these off the coast and to be honest you only see them on very clear still days and even then you don't really notice them. As for areas of outstanding natural beauty, I've never see the sea as an object of beauty?

Anonymous

team47b wrote:

soooo much better to have a nuclear power station set up in Burley the cooling towers could attract more grockles and they can take the toxic waste and dump it off Boscombe pier, as people in Boscombe won't mind :shock:

Or you could take some personal responsibility and use less electricity and stop respouting ill informed DM type comments

IMHO

Hopefully they will scare off the deer which are forever in the garden since hunting them was banned

Kieran_Burns

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Can't see a problem with it myself - we have some in the distance I can see out of the window and I ride past them all the time.

I'd prefer that than the cost/danger of more nuclear power.

Gawd...

http://singularityhub.com/2012/12/11/no ... r-reactor/

Read up on Thorium reactors and maybe research on the 'dangers' of Nuclear reactors.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf62.html for some more reading

Akirasho

... this was parked on the street about a mile from my house though someone had removed the Mr. Fusion... does this count?





<< also handy for those quick janunts into the future to see if wind farms were really an answer >>

Bozman

Going by the average age in that area, 95% of the local population won't be able to see them anyway.

Cleat Eastwood

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Can't see a problem with it myself - we have some in the distance I can see out of the window and I ride past them all the time.

I'd prefer that than the cost/danger of more nuclear power.

Gawd...

http://singularityhub.com/2012/12/11/no ... r-reactor/

Read up on Thorium reactors and maybe research on the 'dangers' of Nuclear reactors.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf62.html for some more reading

Or read how its magical properties are "overstated" - looks like big business'll have to put off raping the planet....again.. for a good few years yet.

nicklouse

looks fine to me. We are going to put one up in our back yard.

nweststeyn

Mr Goo wrote:

This is a simulated photo of the proposal for the worlds largest wind farm between the Isle of Wight and the Purbecks. An area of outstanding natural beauty. Yet this is likely to go ahead. I believe it is being scaled back a bit, but will still be the largest on the planet.

Or how about you consider the fact that wind power is the cleanest way for us to provide the excessive amount of power used by all of us as a result of our greed and sense of entitlement and therefore view these windfarms as what they are - places of outstanding beauty.

capt_slog

nicklouse wrote:

looks fine to me. We are going to put one up in our back yard.

Here's one I made earlier.


This is my home built turbine, it's been flying since July 07 in various guises and blade set-ups.

metronome

In James Lovelock's Revenge of Gaia, he suggests that it's too late to go renewable and nuclear power is the only sensible option until Fusion is possible. A controversial and interesting point from a remarkable chap.

team47b

If nuclear power provides 14% of electricity worldwide 'we' don't have to reduce our consumption by very much to negate the need for nuclear power.

by 'we' I of course mean you as I don't personally use the grid

danlikesbikes

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Danlikesbikes wrote:

Can't see a problem with it myself - we have some in the distance I can see out of the window and I ride past them all the time.

I'd prefer that than the cost/danger of more nuclear power.

Gawd...

http://singularityhub.com/2012/12/11/no ... r-reactor/

Read up on Thorium reactors and maybe research on the 'dangers' of Nuclear reactors.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf62.html for some more reading

My point is still valid - OK so someone is trialling a 4 year test so maybe we will or wont move over to it undoubtedly 20 or so years after the trial has finished IF it works.

As for research the dangers of nuclear reactors granted the newer ones are safer but its all relative to the materials at hand, how they are then disposed of and the enormous cost of doing so. Plus what would happen if something does go wrong, as they tend to go wrong rather badly and there is no quick fix.

I tend to think the Germans have gone the right way with their plans to forsake Nuclear power for cleaner, safer and more efficient forms of power generation. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 10560.html

Tom Dean

WTF is outstanding about that bit of sea?

bompington

team47b wrote:

If nuclear power provides 14% of electricity worldwide 'we' don't have to reduce our consumption by very much to negate the need for nuclear power.

by 'we' I of course mean you as I don't personally use the grid

I'm impressed you managed to connect to BR through a network entirely free of mains powered servers.
Or else it's just another example of people enjoying the benefits of a technologically advanced society while advocating policies that would, if universally adopted, completely destroy that society.

nicklouse

Capt Slog wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

looks fine to me. We are going to put one up in our back yard.

Here's one I made earlier.


This is my home built turbine, it's been flying since July 07 in various guises and blade set-ups.

nice.

Looking to do a 12v battery and solar lighting set up for the kitchen garden and the sheds. Got to love LEDs.

any info on selfbuilding a turbine?

team47b

bompington wrote:

team47b wrote:

If nuclear power provides 14% of electricity worldwide 'we' don't have to reduce our consumption by very much to negate the need for nuclear power.

by 'we' I of course mean you as I don't personally use the grid

I'm impressed you managed to connect to BR through a network entirely free of mains powered servers.
Or else it's just another example of people enjoying the benefits of a technologically advanced society while advocating policies that would, if universally adopted, completely destroy that society.

Thought I wouldn't get away with the smug comment

Admit defeat on smugness and raise you a dig about hyperbole

I only said a 14% reduction.

CambsNewbie

I like wind farms. I think there is a strange beauty to them.

BelgianBeerGeek

Tom Dean wrote:

WTF is outstanding about that bit of sea?

Errm, the Needles, Old Harry Rocks, the Isle of Purbeck. What a dump :roll:
On a nice warm, still day when I put on my air-con on at least those babies will be pumping ashore loads of free leccy. Woo-hoo.

Tom Dean

Oh I couldn't see any of those in the picture :roll:

Is this the Needles you mean?

Because, yeah, to put any kind of man made structure near there would be CRIMINAL.

macleod113

well for my tuppenceworth i really like the turbines. i dont live near a coast but we have 4 just outside Mansfield and i just love the look of them. so simple (the turbines, not me )

on the subject of Nuclear, i assumed the decision was made to go ahead and if they follow how a lot of europe run them i would hope we are safe from being glow in the dark just yet....

...but imagine how much safer we'll be commuting in the dark eh?

pinno

What are we going to do when raw radioactive materials start to dry up (est.2050) ? The lovely environmentally friendly vast, I mean VAST open cast mines in Australia are yielding less and less already.
Lovers/believers/converts/the dissolusioned who think that science and technology will provide the answers to 'untapped' methods of yet to be discovered ways of producing energy. Ha. If we had bread, we could have bread and butter, if we had butter.

Yes, we are going to have to compromise our existences and curb our "greed and sense of entitlement" [fantastic] because we will run out of the resources that we are sucking up at a completely unsustainable rate.
Smell the coffee: we will have no f**king choice.

mr_goo

Fantastic. It seems all the Metropolitan elite have crept out of the wood work and swapped their carbon soled SIDIs for open toed sandals.

Firstly the area of outstanding natural beauty I refer to: Stand on the cliff tops from anywhere between Milford on Sea and Bournemouth/Branksome/Poole and you will then see what I mean. Its not just sea and a horizon its more than that, you have the Isle of Wight and the rolling hills of the Purbecks with an open vista of open water between, used for fishing and plenty of recreational activities. All this will be lost. BTW it is also recognised by UNESCO as part of the Jurassic Coast World Heritage site.

Importantly, wind farms require between 90 to 100% back up from conventional fossil or nuclear generated electricity, as wind power is too unreliable. This is backed up by studies from around the world and from some of the UKs most eminent economists and scientists.

The only reason this site is going ahead will be the massive subsidy received from our government.

Of interest to you tree huggers out there is the fact that David Cameron's father in-law receives over £1000 per day in government subsidy for the 9 wind turbines located on his country estates. Not bad is it? over a third of a million in your bank account for doing sod all for the environment.

Instead of putting up these blots on the landscape why not invest in clean fossil fuel technology and upgrade our existing National Grid infrastructure?. Better still, CONSERVE electricity. Just by us being responsible with its use, and turning off the TV at night or turning off lights when not in the room could reduce the national consumption of electricity by 30%!!!