Edge 800 or edge 810

sigorman85
sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
edited January 2013 in Road general
I can't decide an what one to get is the edge really worth the extra £££
I like the idea if the use with the phone but I suppose it's for ppl who have friends that are really in to it and it look like its nicked a few ideas from strava? I.e your mate has just done blah blah in so n so time .....

I have been offerd a 2nd hand 800 with hr and cadence and Europe maps I think .
It's in "mint condition" so what do you guys reckon on the whole garmin thing at the moment
When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    Having seen the 810 at the cycle show, there isn't enough of a difference to make the upgrade worthwhile for me.
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • sigorman85
    sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
    If I was to buy one would it be wise to buy the 810? Or save 50 or so quid and get the 800
    When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • sigorman85 wrote:
    If I was to buy one would it be wise to buy the 810? Or save 50 or so quid and get the 800

    Is the £50 saving based on the 2nd hand 800 or a new one?

    If it is for the 2nd hand one then I would buy the 810 with a warranty

    If it is for a new 800 then that's what I would go for. For the reason stated by redvee

    Also wouldn't worry about maps being included as there are good ones available for free download
    "You really think you can burn off sugar with exercise?" downhill paul
  • markyone
    markyone Posts: 1,119
    Which free downloads are the best?and are they as good as the ones that come with the garmin?
    Colnago c60 Eps super record 11
    Pinarello F8 with sram etap
  • markyone wrote:
    Which free downloads are the best?and are they as good as the ones that come with the garmin?
    Hi Markyone,

    I use an OSM map from talkytoaster. I understand that they are as good as the Garmin but I have not tried the latter.
    It works well enough though.
    Plenty of discussion on this subject if you do a search.

    Rgds
    C.P
    "You really think you can burn off sugar with exercise?" downhill paul
  • John.T
    John.T Posts: 3,698
    OSM maps are as good if not better than City Navigator. They include most if not all UK cycle routes. I prefer the ones from here to Talkytoaster ones as i think they look clearer. Get either the 'Lite' version or the 'Generic' ones.
    http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
  • Gizmodo
    Gizmodo Posts: 1,928
    John.T wrote:
    OSM maps are as good if not better than City Navigator. They include most if not all UK cycle routes. I prefer the ones from here to Talkytoaster ones as i think they look clearer. Get either the 'Lite' version or the 'Generic' ones.
    http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
    +1. Have used both and would definitely recommend Talkytoaster/OSM.

    Brand new 800 or 810 if the difference is only £50 then I'd go for the 810 - but I've never used an 810 and £50 isn't a lot of money to me, so my opinion is not an informed one.
  • I think the price difference will be higher than £50.

    Evans are advertising the 810 for £380 and the 800 for £270, so a £110 difference. I have seen the 800 for sale at £240 and hopefully once the 810 is released the price of the 800 will drop even further.

    So I am thinking the 800 looks a better purchase.
  • nmt
    nmt Posts: 88
    I think the price difference will be higher than £50.

    Evans are advertising the 810 for £380 and the 800 for £270, so a £110 difference. I have seen the 800 for sale at £240 and hopefully once the 810 is released the price of the 800 will drop even further.

    So I am thinking the 800 looks a better purchase.

    The 810 is £480 if bought as a bundle with hrm cadence and maps and £360 for the same bundle in the 800 version, Think i'd go 800 and save the £120
  • sigorman85
    sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
    I bought the 810 in the end guys for. 422 with hr and cadence and maps from my lbs got 12% off as I'm a member at a £5 annual cost so worked out as a ok price for the garmin it gets delivered the "first week of feb" even tho it's a week late coming out
    When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • overlord2
    overlord2 Posts: 339
    I'd take the 800 if you can get it a fair bit cheaper the 810 isn't much of an upgrade.

    They are a great bit of kit and wouldn't be without one now. But, they do have problems now and again so do carry some kind of navigation back up to get home (ie map) if you are using it to navigate and you are clueless to where you are going.
  • rob21
    rob21 Posts: 284
    edited January 2013
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Not worth upgrading 800 --> 810' however if i didnt have a GPS at all, or ihad the 500 and needed mapping, i'd go for the 810. However that's just me, but if budget was a factor, then i'd say the 800 is more than adequate.
  • vortice
    vortice Posts: 244
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
  • rob21
    rob21 Posts: 284
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
    Evans cycles....
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gar ... r-ec046582 :D
  • vortice
    vortice Posts: 244
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
    Evans cycles....
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gar ... r-ec046582 :D

    Cheers Rob. Had looked at Evans for the 510 but said awaiting stock...

    Can you answer me something. The 810 has virtual training partner. It also has a similar facility where you can race against your (or someone else's) previous time on the same route. Does this feature just average out the speed that the previous route was ridden at or is it based on the speed of the rider at that particular point on the route? Ie, does it slow down for climbs or stay constant throughout the route?

    Cheers,

    John
  • rob21
    rob21 Posts: 284
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
    Evans cycles....
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gar ... r-ec046582 :D

    Cheers Rob. Had looked at Evans for the 510 but said awaiting stock...

    Can you answer me something. The 810 has virtual training partner. It also has a similar facility where you can race against your (or someone else's) previous time on the same route. Does this feature just average out the speed that the previous route was ridden at or is it based on the speed of the rider at that particular point on the route? Ie, does it slow down for climbs or stay constant throughout the route?

    Cheers,

    John
    im guessing it based on the speed off the rider at certain points on the route and probably is pretty consistent during the ride,others on here may be more knowable and may have more info..
  • vortice
    vortice Posts: 244
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
    Evans cycles....
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gar ... r-ec046582 :D

    Cheers Rob. Had looked at Evans for the 510 but said awaiting stock...

    Can you answer me something. The 810 has virtual training partner. It also has a similar facility where you can race against your (or someone else's) previous time on the same route. Does this feature just average out the speed that the previous route was ridden at or is it based on the speed of the rider at that particular point on the route? Ie, does it slow down for climbs or stay constant throughout the route?

    Cheers,

    John
    im guessing it based on the speed off the rider at certain points on the route and probably is pretty consistent during the ride,others on here may be more knowable and may have more info..

    Thanks Rob. Had a look at the handbook but it doesn't make it clear.

    Anyone else know?

    Cheers,

    John
  • rob21
    rob21 Posts: 284
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Vortice wrote:
    rob21 wrote:
    Ive had the 810 for a week and i have to say it,s a really decent bit of kit with excellent features.
    if i had the 800 i wouldn't have upgraded to the 810 TBH..
    i upgraded from the 500 so for me it has to be the 810 all the way :D

    I didn't realise it was out already. Where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking?
    Evans cycles....
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gar ... r-ec046582 :D

    Cheers Rob. Had looked at Evans for the 510 but said awaiting stock...

    Can you answer me something. The 810 has virtual training partner. It also has a similar facility where you can race against your (or someone else's) previous time on the same route. Does this feature just average out the speed that the previous route was ridden at or is it based on the speed of the rider at that particular point on the route? Ie, does it slow down for climbs or stay constant throughout the route?

    Cheers,

    John
    im guessing it based on the speed off the rider at certain points on the route and probably is pretty consistent during the ride,others on here may be more knowable and may have more info..

    Thanks Rob. Had a look at the handbook but it doesn't make it clear.

    Anyone else know?

    Cheers,

    John
    i had a play with the live tracking today the wife was following me on her laptop.
    i have it set up on Facebook as a link so my friends can also watch my ride lol
  • sigorman85
    sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
    How have you got the 810?? It's not been released yet has it? I thought it was the 2nd week of feb
    When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Gizmodo wrote:
    John.T wrote:
    OSM maps are as good if not better than City Navigator. They include most if not all UK cycle routes. I prefer the ones from here to Talkytoaster ones as i think they look clearer. Get either the 'Lite' version or the 'Generic' ones.
    http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
    +1. Have used both and would definitely recommend Talkytoaster/OSM.

    Brand new 800 or 810 if the difference is only £50 then I'd go for the 810 - but I've never used an 810 and £50 isn't a lot of money to me, so my opinion is not an informed one.

    Gonna try these out - hopefully it works after i ve just renamed the file (the Streetmap file has the same name - gmapsupp.img - and I'm want to keep that one!)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • mallorcajeff
    mallorcajeff Posts: 1,489
    if the vitual partner is anything like my old one its "live" as per the last ride. Its funny becuase you can see yourself catching up or slightly ahead then if you remember that car tha pulled out on you last night, you stopped then got going again, you look down and you will jump 30-40 seconds ahead in an instant so it should be "live" as it were that was on my old edge 605 and the new one will be vastly better.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Success t does! Massively more detailed than the Streetmap map but also too detailed to see so I ve had to reduce the data level!

    Will have to wait till next weekend to try it properly.

    TO add to the above, i ve never used the Virtual Partner to be honest or the coaching things installed on it.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rob21
    rob21 Posts: 284
    sigorman85 wrote:
    How have you got the 810?? It's not been released yet has it? I thought it was the 2nd week of feb
    pre ordered it from Evans Cycles early january....
  • vortice
    vortice Posts: 244
    if the vitual partner is anything like my old one its "live" as per the last ride. Its funny becuase you can see yourself catching up or slightly ahead then if you remember that car tha pulled out on you last night, you stopped then got going again, you look down and you will jump 30-40 seconds ahead in an instant so it should be "live" as it were that was on my old edge 605 and the new one will be vastly better.

    That's good to know...just a shame this feature isn't available on the 510!
  • Hi guys,
    Slightly off topic, but could anyone recommend a good, reasonably priced cycling sat-nav? Got a long way to ride in a few weeks and don't want to have pages and pages of directions written down if I can avoid it.
    Trying to keep costs down, so budget somewhere around £100.

    Any advice would be great, cheers,
    Sam
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Don't think anything around 100 exists to be honest...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • stueys
    stueys Posts: 1,332
    nmt wrote:
    I think the price difference will be higher than £50.

    Evans are advertising the 810 for £380 and the 800 for £270, so a £110 difference. I have seen the 800 for sale at £240 and hopefully once the 810 is released the price of the 800 will drop even further.

    So I am thinking the 800 looks a better purchase.

    The 810 is £480 if bought as a bundle with hrm cadence and maps and £360 for the same bundle in the 800 version, Think i'd go 800 and save the £120

    :shock: much as I love my 800 I think garmin are being somewhat optimistic on pricing for the 810....
  • Got my 810 last week, stepped up from 705, went for the full road bundle inc the out front bracket £415 from LBS.

    Still like my 705!!