New Wheelset help?

xcMuttley

Hi, im looking to get a new lighter wheelset for the summer months but dont want to spend to much.
My bike is currently fitted with these:
Rims:Mavic CXP-22. black anodized with silver sidewalls
Front Hub:Shimano105 precision sealed
Rear Hub:Shimano105 precision

I was having a look at these http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=685
But the price to weight seems to good to be true! But is it worth it seeing as they have the 2 year warranty etc. with it? Are there any better wheels around the same price?
Thanks

dwanes

might be worth a pop. Don't think there is a wheelset about that light for that kind of money.
If you do decide to go for them let us know how you get on.

dwanes

The Alexrims ACF40 Carbon/Alloy Clincher wheelset look sweeeet for £499, from that store.
Anyone got these?

ugo.santalucia

xcMuttley wrote:

Hi, im looking to get a new lighter wheelset for the summer months but dont want to spend to much.
My bike is currently fitted with these:
Rims:Mavic CXP-22. black anodized with silver sidewalls
Front Hub:Shimano105 precision sealed
Rear Hub:Shimano105 precision

I was having a look at these http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=685
But the price to weight seems to good to be true! But is it worth it seeing as they have the 2 year warranty etc. with it? Are there any better wheels around the same price?
Thanks

These are yet another version of the same thing we have seen over the past 3-4 years. Kinlin rims built on budget taiwanese hubs.
Just one thing: a two year warranty sounds like such a great deal, but it is a waste of time... anything that can go wrong covered by warranty will go wrong within the first few hundred miles... anything else is not covered by warranty.
The free truing policy is another con... considering the cost of sending them back for retruing, with the same money any LBS or builder will true them for you without all the faff and bother

The build quality of your current setup is superior, these are only lighter.

That said, the price is certainly worth a punt

xcMuttley

Ive already had these thoughts, but im assuming the manufacturers of the hubs and rims are likely the same as the mountain bike wheelsets and everyone loves those wheelsets with a passion. I have seen very few complaints about any of there parts so maybe it is worth the money for a huge weight loss (Especially with a 150 mile one day coast to coast planned)

keef66

I'd say your 105 hubs are likely better made and more durable than the cheaper / lighter alloy ones you're considering. Have you thought about rebuilding them?

xcMuttley

I havnt thought about rebuilding them, but it seems like a much better idea. Any ideas of what i should go with? I would love a set of Halo wheels. But what other options do i have? Can i put bladed spokes on the 105 hub?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated The nearer to the weight of the superstar wheels the better.

xcMuttley

Although buying the new wheelset would mean i have decent set of wheels to use in the winter...

styxd

You should buy wheels based on the type of riding you do and your weight.

Those superstars might work ok for a weak/very light rider. I think they'll still be pretty flexy though (which is worse than a heavy wheel in my opinion)

If you can build wheels yourself, or know someone who can do it for free, then you could buy some cheap and light ebay hubs and build them up onto some nice rims like Velocity's. This should be doable for £200 or less.

Another option is 2nd hand. The hope pro 3/mavic combo can usually be had for £200 second hand. Good quality hubs with decent rims (just take them to a bike shop to make sure they're tensioned properly)

Or you could save your money and just get some decent tyres and tubes for your current wheels.

xcMuttley

Im not the lightest rider and my riding is mainly sportives+daily rides. Would flex be a problem even with the 30mm rim do you reckon?

styxd

In my experience of wheels like this, I would not buy them due to front wheel flex, rear wheel rubbing the brake blocks when standing climbing, and poor bearing life.

Get something like this (although the tyres are not ideal)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mavic-Open-Pr ... 2ec54b7469

cycleclinic

U.G is right the rim is a Kinlin XR-300 on some hub. The weight is real I think. If you are 80 kg then they should be fine. If you are 90 kg I would not recomend them. If you are 70 kg then they are a safer bet. The XR-300 rim is actually pretty stiff but the overall relaibilty does depend on the built quality and how many potholes you hit. As I have never superstar wheels I cannot comment on that. I generally consider 20F/24R spoke count wheels as race only.

For a light riders 24F/28R for everyday wheels can work. For heavier riders 28F/32R or 32F/36R can be more appropriate. Also for those faced with rough roads the more spokes the better. Nothing worng with higher spoke count wheels they can be lighter than many factory low spoke count wheelsets.

The superstar wheels are cheap though so not much to loose.

How much flex you will get out of them will depend on your riding style, power output e.t.c and the hub flange spacing. I do not know what that is for hubs used in this build. Some lightweight hubs like the Novatec F482 have really good flange spacings and good resulting bracing angles and stiff wheels. Other light weight hubs do not give good bracing angles and result in a less stiff wheel.

Also brake rub is a poor way of assesing wheel stiffness as take two wheelset with the same lateral stiffness on with a deep rim and one with a shallow rim. The one with the deep rim will rub the brakes more - counterintuative but thats the way it works.

Kinlin rims are not that bad. There are better, DT Swiss, velocity e.t.c. I have built with the XR-300 and use a set of wheels built with XR-200 rims. The actually build really well and very tensions with high ture standards are easily achieved.

Also there are many other way to get a 1500g wheelset but they often cost more.

ugo.santalucia

If your 105 hubs are in good conditions, a rebuild on better, lighter rims with lighter spokes can shave off 300 grams of rotational weight, which is not insignificant...cxp 33, Velocity A23, Open PRO...
The only.problem is that material and labour will come at roughly the same price as your new superstar set, or whatever is called... So it seems not to be viable, however where is the false economy is hard to say... :roll: