Turbo virgin

mattsaw
mattsaw Posts: 907
edited January 2013 in Commuting chat
I'm thinking of splashing out for a turbo. I put in a fair few commuting miles each week, not now with two kids at home it's difficult to escape for longer rides.

However I've never really looking into turbos before, and I know nothing about them. Doing a bit of reading around last night has only really confused me more. :oops:

Can anyone give me some tips on what to look for?

I'm also pretty conscious of the boredom factor. Whats the cheapest way of hooking it up to the laptop for some kind of competitive edge?
Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
Strava

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  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    By competitive edge do you mean online-head-to-head?
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    By competitive edge do you mean online-head-to-head?

    No, nothing that sophisticated, just something where I can either race the computer or previous times set by myself.

    I've seen some that do that, but wondered if was worth paying the extra for.
    Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
    Strava
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    I've got a Tacx Satori, and use that with existing (Garmin) sensors on my bike and Trainerroad.com.

    That and telly, surround sound, a mat under the bike and a BIG fan.
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • bushu
    bushu Posts: 711
    Aye, i was thinkin these were a good idea recently too but, quite an investment if i'm not going to put it to use near 200 beer tokens o_0
  • I picked up my first ever turbo last night... yet to try it. It was second hand off of a friend of a friend, as I wasn't sure if it would sit in a cupboard for months!
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

    Brompton SL2
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    I had one for a couple of years, I sold it this winter as it wasn't getting used.

    My top tip for extra training with young kids is get up dead early. I'm out a 6am at the weekend, earlier in the summer, and can normally get 35-40 miles in before the wife get miffed. I'm lucky though, my kids don't normally get out of bed until 8:00
    Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
    Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
    Vitus Sentier VRS - 2017
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    When you say that you're missing the "longer rides", how long were you hoping you were going to spend on the turbo? I find them mind-numbing - an hour is the very most I can sustain. They are also quite noisy (even the Elite gel one I have). Fortunately my son uses it for his post-op rehab so I'm under no pressure to use it.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • pastryboy
    pastryboy Posts: 1,385
    Why would anyone want a turbo when you could have rollers? I've not used them but they look far more enjoyable.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Buy the cheapest 2nd one you can find then if you actually use it for more than 4-6 splash out on a better one.

    I think I've probably only done about 1000 miles on mine in 4+ years and most of those whilst recovering from injuries
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  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    prawny wrote:
    I had one for a couple of years, I sold it this winter as it wasn't getting used.

    My top tip for extra training with young kids is get up dead early. I'm out a 6am at the weekend, earlier in the summer, and can normally get 35-40 miles in before the wife get miffed. I'm lucky though, my kids don't normally get out of bed until 8:00

    I'm the other way around, I'm lucky if they stay in bed past 5.50, and then I take the eldest to Rugby at 8.30 on Sunday mornings.

    Can anyone recommend any good boarding schools? :|
    Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
    Strava
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    When you say that you're missing the "longer rides", how long were you hoping you were going to spend on the turbo? I find them mind-numbing - an hour is the very most I can sustain. They are also quite noisy (even the Elite gel one I have). Fortunately my son uses it for his post-op rehab so I'm under no pressure to use it.

    I really want to start building-up to 100 miles +, so as I said, I'm ideally looking for something that includes some form of competition to keep it interesting.

    Noise isn't too much of an issue, we have a large garage on the other side of the house, so I'm not going to be disturbing anyone but myself in there.
    Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
    Strava
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    Mattsaw wrote:
    prawny wrote:
    I had one for a couple of years, I sold it this winter as it wasn't getting used.

    My top tip for extra training with young kids is get up dead early. I'm out a 6am at the weekend, earlier in the summer, and can normally get 35-40 miles in before the wife get miffed. I'm lucky though, my kids don't normally get out of bed until 8:00

    I'm the other way around, I'm lucky if they stay in bed past 5.50, and then I take the eldest to Rugby at 8.30 on Sunday mornings.

    Can anyone recommend any good boarding schools? :|

    Go out at night?
    Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
    Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
    Vitus Sentier VRS - 2017
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    itboffin wrote:
    Buy the cheapest 2nd one you can find then if you actually use it for more than 4-6 splash out on a better one.

    I think I've probably only done about 1000 miles on mine in 4+ years and most of those whilst recovering from injuries

    At the moment I'm thinking of getting a half decent one second hand rather than forking-out for a new one just in case I don't get on with it.

    Has anyone bought one and uses it often?
    Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
    Strava
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    IMO this is the best turbo available for sensible money, nice and simple, no wires to break, just change the resistance by using the gears.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/elite-crono-flu ... l-trainer/

    And forget about any other fancy computer gubbins, all you need is sufferfest

    http://www.thesufferfest.com/

    Seriously, an hour on the turbo flies by and you'll have done one of the best interval based workouts you can do. I run a cycling club and we run weekly turbo sessions through the winter. People keep coming back for more pain so it must be good :twisted:
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Oh and a heart rate monitor can be useful but is not essential.
  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    I've acquired a second hand turbotrainer recently. How badly do they wear out normal tyres?
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    notsoblue wrote:
    I've acquired a second hand turbotrainer recently. How badly do they wear out normal tyres?

    Well I'm not sure about the rest of you but when I use the turbo earth actually spins faster ...nails!
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • bobinski
    bobinski Posts: 570
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    IMO this is the best turbo available for sensible money, nice and simple, no wires to break, just change the resistance by using the gears.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/elite-crono-flu ... l-trainer/

    And forget about any other fancy computer gubbins, all you need is sufferfest

    http://www.thesufferfest.com/

    Seriously, an hour on the turbo flies by and you'll have done one of the best interval based workouts you can do.

    +1 for the Elite...and the sufferfest videos.
  • pastryboy wrote:
    Why would anyone want a turbo when you could have rollers? I've not used them but they look far more enjoyable.
    I've just got some rollers. Got to the point where I can go half an hour without having to lean on something. It feels really difficult at first but is definitely more like "real cycling" than the turbo. The thing is, when I get tired I can't keep straight on the rollers but on the turbo you can completely do yourself in for a satisfying workout.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    IMO this is the best turbo available for sensible money, nice and simple, no wires to break, just change the resistance by using the gears.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/elite-crono-flu ... l-trainer/

    :

    I'm another +1 for that model
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • bushu
    bushu Posts: 711
    Also where on earth would i get a quick release wheel for a 120mm O.L.D spaced single speed track bike, I'm out..


    maybe next year when i have a road racing push iron worth protecting from the elements 8)
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    Thanks for the recommendations chaps, I'll look into them. :)
    Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
    Strava
  • I considered that Elite turbo but ended up getting their Hydro-Mag hybrid turbo instead - and I've been pleased with it. Whichever you go for I would choose one that has a profile on TrainerRoad: I've just recently joined up and I've used my turbo more in the last few weeks than in the whole of last winter. Even if you don't join up straight away, it probably worth having the option...

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  • dal105
    dal105 Posts: 31
    I've recently started using "TrainerRoad" as well, to add some structure and direction to turbo sessions.
    It has a library of power/speed curves for various turbo trainers, so with a ANT+ speed sensor and a ANT+ USB dongle, you get power (ish) based workouts on a conventional (cheap) turbo trainer. You can do a workout that will calculate your Threshold (and calibrate any inaccuracies in you turbo power curve). All other workouts are then set at levels based on you threshold.

    http://www.trainerroad.com

    Really enjoying it so far - definitely good for motivation. Strangely addictive matching power output to the lines that are on the screen.
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