Shock removal

angry_bird

Just got the new el guapo frame and the shock is mounted a stupid way up stopping the levers operating properly so needs flipping over so they're pointing down not up.

Before I start taking tools to the brand new frame just thought I'd check it is simple as letting the air out, removing the mounting bolt at the bottom of the shaft, removing the mount from the top of the can, flipping it over then bolting it back up.

Cheers

doncorleoni

Yup - I did just that on my Kona when I had it ....just cycle the shock through entire length of travel prior to pressurising it just to make sure nothing fouls on anything. You can run rear shocks piston down, piston up horizontal left / right - really does not matter. Can look a bit odd piston pointing up though if I am honest!

The Rookie

Yes, just watch out for any spacers and washers so they go back the same way!

cooldad

No need to let the air out.

angry_bird

Cool, so having undone the bottom mounting bolt at the end of the shaft there's absolutely no movement there... need any special tools to go any further?

doncorleoni

No need to let air out but it helps if you cycle shock to make sure it does not foul during full travel. May look ok but when shock rotates (depending on design of linkage) the air can can hit the frame.

What is it you are trying to do? I assume you are wanting to flip the shock so you are swapping the mounting hardware over? The tops hats are usually press fitted into the shock ...you will need a vice or mole grips to grab, twist and pull the hats out. Have a look at this :

http://www.tftunedshox.com/info/mount_k ... hings.aspx

The Northern Monkey

Angry Bird wrote:

Cool, so having undone the bottom mounting bolt at the end of the shaft there's absolutely no movement there... need any special tools to go any further?

Have you removed the bolt?

Undo and remove the top and bottom shock bolts and remove. The shock should then slide out.

angry_bird

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Angry Bird wrote:

Cool, so having undone the bottom mounting bolt at the end of the shaft there's absolutely no movement there... need any special tools to go any further?

Have you removed the bolt?

Undo and remove the top and bottom shock bolts and remove. The shock should then slide out.

Yep, the top slides out, bottom won't budge.

The Northern Monkey

hmmmm.. Pics?

angry_bird

Yeah they'd be useful wouldn't they, I'm heading out now but I'll sort them in the morning. Cheers so far.

angry_bird

OK so this is the issue, the blue dial gets caught on the frame



So I'm wanting to turn it upside down so it rotates underneath and can't get caught.

Undone the bolt at the end of the shaft and removed it but the shock is not not budging, I imagine it's to do with them there black bits, but being useless with FS I'm clueless as to what to do/what I need, now I remember why I prefer HTs, they're so much easier

Anyway, the problem area, from top first, then from the bottom

cooldad

I am open to correction, but all I can suggest is pull harder.

angry_bird

Hmm it's occured to me but I'm not sure how much force I want to try putting through it, don't fancy damaging it, I suspect it'd take a fair bit to do so. Thought it best to enquire before going in heavy handed.

angry_bird

The other thing I'm slightly concerned about is getting it back in and aligned if it takes a considerable amount of force to get it out in the first place...

bennett_346

Yeah just pull it harder, its just a tight fit. There should be washers between the frame and shock eyelet.

angry_bird

bennett_346 wrote:

Yeah just pull it harder, its just a tight fit. There should be washers between the frame and shock eyelet.

Cool, will get all Popeye on it in the morning then can't be fucked right now, it's most definitely bed time.

Deputy Dawg

Can you not just rotate the can while leaving the piston in situ?

mrmonkfinger

It sounds like it just needs a bit more "persuading" to pop out.

Deputy Dawg wrote:

Can you not just rotate the can while leaving the piston in situ?

or, this ^

you will need to let the air out first

The Rookie

Loosen the bolts holding one rocker on to reduce the clamping on the shock that end - depending on design this can help - or not!

EH_Rob

Yep you just need to properly yank it I would have thought - as already said it should be a snug fit. If you can break it by pulling it then kudos, you're hard.

angry_bird

Cheers for the help guys, still no sign of it budging at all no matter how hard I try :roll: Guess I could just twist the body round but would be nice to be able to get it out, no doubt I'll need to do so in the future.

The Beginner wrote:

Loosen the bolts holding one rocker on to reduce the clamping on the shock that end - depending on design this can help - or not!

Unfortunately doesn't seem to work with this design.

Will give on-one a bell in a bit, let everyone get back from lunch and see if I can talk to one of their mechanics

cooldad

Hammer.

bennett_346

Rubber mallet...

The Northern Monkey

block of wood

angry_bird

The dog stole my mallet and hid it in the garden before christmas

Spoke to Neil at On-One and he said they are a stupidly tight fit. Up there in the workshop they loosen off both sides at the top of the rocker and do a lot of wiggling and grunting and eventually it'll come out but it'll still be quite tight and take a lot of work.

For now I've just rotated the top of the shock, guess I'll face it again when it comes to servicing it but for now I think the word is "meh".

Cheers everyone