30 or more riders in a club ride do I need a permit?

denzzz28

I need some help please..!

Im trying to organize a charity ride for our cycling club (London to Windsor). I am expecting at lease 10-15 riders to do this ride but im just concerned that we might end up reaching 20-30 riders. If so then do I need a permit or something?

smidsy

If your worried just break up into smaller groups with a few minutes gap.

lc1981

I don't really understand the question. A permit to do what, and from whom? If it's on public roads, I don't see why you would ever need a permit.

Frank the tank

As long as you're not racing I don't see as any "paperwork" is required.

Bobbinogs

As above, no permits are required unless racing but courtesy dictates that setting folks off in small groups with a few minutes gap always works well. Once a few miles in, the first hill usually destroys any aspirations of a big peleton

dynamicbrick

As courtesy you could contact the local Road Policing Unit (who are often on Twitter, strangely) and let them know your route. They can advise you of any potential conflicts - public demonstrations, wide loads, horse fetishists fairs, or worst of all; a triathlon - happening en route.

diy

Insurance depending on any entry fees for organising the ride.

tiredofwhiners

diy wrote:

Insurance depending on any entry fees for organising the ride.

And possibly personal liability insurance ?

Wasn't there a case recently where someone on an informal group ride crashed and sued the organiser of the ride ? I cannot recall what the outcome was but I remember that the insurance state of the organiser came up in the discussions.

bouncyboy

Don't have 30 on the roads to Windsor. Far to many and dangerous for those roads. Break people into smaller groups around 8-12, you won't have any problems then.

diy

tiredofwhiners wrote:

diy wrote:

Insurance depending on any entry fees for organising the ride.

And possibly personal liability insurance ?

Wasn't there a case recently where someone on an informal group ride crashed and sued the organiser of the ride ? I cannot recall what the outcome was but I remember that the insurance state of the organiser came up in the discussions.

The moment you charge any kind of fee for an organised event, you open yourself up to duty of care claims. That is not to say you don't if no fee is charged, but its very hard to argue that it was not a formally organised event once people are paying fees.

there is some info here on how to make sure you are not negligent:
http://www.ctc.org.uk/file/Public/lawan ... viders.pdf

Monty Dog

No need for any permit or insurance, you and a few friends are entitled to ride along the road - many cycle clubruns can easily exceed that number and do not require any specific arrangements. However, consideration of other road users by not riding in a large bunch on narrow roads will prevent you drawing the unwanted attention of other road users.

Frank the tank

Monty Dog wrote:

No need for any permit or insurance, you and a few friends are entitled to ride along the road - many cycle clubruns can easily exceed that number and do not require any specific arrangements. However, consideration of other road users by not riding in a large bunch on narrow roads will prevent you drawing the unwanted attention of other road users.

Basic "common sense" just needs to be used.

Sometimes on charity rides people with more enthusiasm than experience can come along, they're the ones that need to be ushered along.