Light weighting my caad10

MaxPayne

Hey all - I'm looking to further lighten my Caad10 105 2012...

So far I've got;
mavic ksyrium sl wheels
bontrager xxx lite seat post

I have around £200... What would be the next part to change?

Thanks

smidsy

After wheels, tyres and finishing kit (bars stem and seat post) your really start to get diminishing returns and put in lots of cash doing it.

Everything will be grams saved rather than 100's of grams and it really has no decernable benefit to your riding experience.

Get the miles in and enjoy your already nice bike.

Pickled Pig

One of these



- or sell the bike and spend all the extra £££ on a better spec bike from the get go :?

Strith

Crankset is pretty heavy. Crc were doing fsa kforce for £200 in a double, will save a good few grams and a bargain.

Get over on weight weenies forum, there's loads fo caad10 threads and more knowledgable people who will offer better advice there.

robbo2011

Pickled Pig wrote:

One of these





- or sell the bike and spend all the extra £££ on a better spec bike from the get go :?

That looks hideous. Stick with the CAAD10.

napoleond

Plus it's probably heavier than a CAAD 10 frame/fork.

Monty Dog

Apart from contact points i.e. bars, saddle and pedals that help to optimise your position, I'd leave as is until you wear something out and then seek to upgrade to something better. Simply replacing a perfectly functional part for the perceived need of something better is a pretty futile exercise.

simon_masterson

Firstly, a 'light' (no bike you will find is truly 'heavy', particularly in relation to the majority weight contingent!) bike has a light frame and fork and light wheels.

Spend proportionately; don't squander your money on making a 9.70kg bike a 9.30kg bike. Unless the bike really is floating around the UCI limit (and you've invested accordingly!), and you have a power meter on there, then don't fret overly about it (and remember that the pros themselves will often opt for a heavier bike in the name of performance; for example declining to use carbon fibre derailleurs and pedals). If you can reduce the weight by a kilo or more (at the very least) whilst spending proportionately, then by all means consider the upgrades on principle, but you'd be surprised how difficult this can be (unless your bike currently has 38mm Marathon Pluses). Apart from the frame and fork and the wheels there aren't that many singly weighty things on a bike, and even those that there are (eg. cranks) won't save you that much weight if you buy pricey ones. The weight difference between 105 and Dura Ace is not life changing.

Secondly, if you have weight to lose from yourself, you are wasting your time.

Thirdly, for 99% of cyclists it doesn't matter, and for the rest it doesn't matter very much.

cougie

+1 on the leave things as they are. £200 won't buy you any noticeable weight improvements.
If your bits are working - leave as they are.

Put the £200 towards a long weekend in the alps or something.

simon_masterson

cougie wrote:

+1 on the leave things as they are. £200 won't buy you any noticeable weight improvements.
If your bits are working - leave as they are.

Put the £200 towards a long weekend in the alps or something.

This; or some coaching, a posh bike fit or even just some really good shorts.

stinger53

cougie wrote:

+1 on the leave things as they are. £200 won't buy you any noticeable weight improvements.
If your bits are working - leave as they are.

Put the £200 towards a long weekend in the alps or something.

+1
i don't see the point in lightening a bike just by a few grams not much would be noticed.

Skeleton_Sharn

Sram Red Cassette! You'll need to run a Sram chain but it will work fine with your 105. Thatll save you abit on the static weight of the bike.

Other than that.. Seat.

Not gona do much for less than £200 really.

+1 for leave the rest, kill it and replace with upgrades.

bikingjohn

How about lightweight crankset, carbon handlebar and saddle?

navrig

http://www.allbran.co.uk

Strith

bikingjohn wrote:

How about lightweight crankset, carbon handlebar and saddle?

Where is that hong kong?

Like i said crc are doing fsa kforce light for less than 200, that's a significant saving there. You can save a good bit on the saddle too, standard bars and seatpost are quite heavy.
You could look at tubes and tyres too.

simon_masterson

None of the above (bars, saddle, chainset, cassette, etc) singly offers a significant weight reduction. If you purchased all of them you MIGHT save up to a kilo or between one and two, but you stand to pay a substantial chunk of what the bike is worth for minimal appreciable gain. I do not presume to know the financial circumstances of the OP but if £200 is the budget then I would not assume that funds are abundant enough to warrant such frankly stupid frivolity; there are FAR better uses for that money than weight reduction.

And we still have the issue that weight is supremely overrated as a factor in cycling.

Strith

The crankset i suggested would save nearly 300g which is a pretty good saving in g/£ IMO

simon_masterson

I concur, but it's a daft amount of money to spend on the purpose. If you can afford to spend hundreds and thousands on this (and therefore also buy everything else mentioned including coaching, overseas training, power meters and so on) then it's a drop in the ocean, but if those are the circumstances then the bike being upgraded will be somewhat fancier than the one in question!

Strith

Actually caad10s seem to be one the most popular bikes on WW forum. Guess because it's such a light frame.

Skeleton_Sharn

Simon Masterson wrote:

None of the above (bars, saddle, chainset, cassette, etc) singly offers a significant weight reduction. If you purchased all of them you MIGHT save up to a kilo or between one and two, but you stand to pay a substantial chunk of what the bike is worth for minimal appreciable gain. I do not presume to know the financial circumstances of the OP but if £200 is the budget then I would not assume that funds are abundant enough to warrant such frankly stupid frivolity; there are FAR better uses for that money than weight reduction.

And we still have the issue that weight is supremely overrated as a factor in cycling.

Thats quite alot really! And he might really appreciate that minimal gain. Or maybe hes 9 stone and lives at the top of a huge hill? :roll:
Plus theres the added benefit of these components probably feeling better and being more comfortable (Bars/stem) and probably looking much better 8) - Which makes you ride 3/7th better than on the previous set up you had. But only for 26% of the first third of your annual miles.

Youre right though.. but he didnt ask if we thought it was worth doing.

I actually think Caad10s are well worthy of top end parts. Theyre good quality, fantastic weight, nice character and great geometry.

Pimp it up man. You can't ride money!

bikingjohn

Strith wrote:

bikingjohn wrote:

How about lightweight crankset, carbon handlebar and saddle?

Where is that hong kong?

Like i said crc are doing fsa kforce light for less than 200, that's a significant saving there. You can save a good bit on the saddle too, standard bars and seatpost are quite heavy.
You could look at tubes and tyres too.

I've got SRAM S950 compact and carbon handlebar in CRC. The crankset does really shave many grams from the original FSA Gossamer crankset. Carbon handlebar provides comfort and some weight reduction.

The Merek SQ1 carbon saddle is surprisingly comfortable enough for century ride (no, haven't done double century yet). It's 108g very light.

yea, it's a path beside a water supply canal in Tsuen Wan (the ride http://app.strava.com/activities/12785632)

Strith

bikingjohn wrote:

yea, it's a path beside a water supply canal in Tsuen Wan (the ride http://app.strava.com/activities/12785632)

Nice. Do you know of any decent hire shops in HK? I usuall take my bike but i don't want to nxt time I head out, so was wondering if there is anywhere I can hire a decent quality road bike and just take my saddle and shoes etc.

Finlaz22

Sounds like you need to go on holiday! Much better spent there than saving a few grams.

ricky1980

After the wheels you will be looking at the chain set. That's the next big wright saving. Bars stem etc is a waste of money. You don't get much from going carbon either. Unless you are throwing in hundreds more.

But a nice set of chain set will shave off a couple of hundred grams and also add the Bing factor .

I got caad 8 upgraded wheels to elite. Now it.is around 8.8kg I think it was around 9.5kg. I also got ulyegra cassette but that was for longivity as opposed to weight saving cos the cassettes were cheap...40 quid. Certainly I am looking at a new chainset as the fsa omega is hugely heavy...almost 1kg

simon_masterson

ricky1980 wrote:

Certainly I am looking at a new chainset as the fsa omega is hugely heavy...almost 1kg

Well, you did mention wasting money...

paulhino

For £200, I would leave it as it is. I picked up a 2012 CAAD10 ultegra a couple weeks ago and I'm really enjoying the ride.

ricky1980

Simon Masterson wrote:

Well, you did mention wasting money...

i can't justify 200 dosh on a new chainset when i have a SRAM red chainset bought for £120 second hand (it's going on my carb bike and different BB fitting)

So i am patiently hawking the classified for a cannondale SLK chainset or some SRAM force/red/S950 or FSA SLK/k-force light ones...patience is wearing thin...

Lycra Man

Remove your wallet from pocket, give £200 to me, replace wallet. Job done.
;-)
Lycra Man

itsnotarace

You could get

Planet X Ti skewers @ 44g £17.50, will probably save you about 50 or 60 grams
Planet X forged brakes @ 230g £59.99, will save you 130g over Shimano 105 brakes
3T Rotundo Pro bars @ 250g £45, will save you 60 grams over stock Cannondale bars
Continental GP4000s tyres @ 410g , £50 pair, will save you between 50 and 100g depending on what tyres you run now
Vittoria Latex inner tubes @ 150g, £18 pair, will save you about 50g or more over current tubes
Carbon Ti X-Plug @ 14g, £20
Carbon Ti X-Cap @ 6g, £20, with the X-Plug will save 30g over the OEM headset adjuster
KMC X10 SL chain @ 232g, £35.96, will save 50g over Shimano 105 chain

Total = £270
Weight saving = ~420g

After that you need to start spending serious money to shed a few grams here and there, or drop large and buy a set of 1000g wheels

MaxPayne

Thanks for all the pointers and listings of parts!

It’s actually become a bit of an obsession regarding light weighting and personalising my bike which I’m sure some of you can understand… but I’m not planning on spending a fortune, just a few hundred pounds and then I’m done (he says)

Oh I’m 5f 10” at 11 stone and really don’t want to lose any more weight… also off to club la santa in March for a 1 weeks triathlon training - anyone been before… reviews? And I live in the Cotswolds full of hills

bernithebiker

Best £200 I ever spent on my bike was for an AX Lightness saddle. 74g, supremely comfortable, and has done me proud for over 10 years now.

(Think it was 150 Euros at the time).