Instagram Greed

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  • Hoopdriver
    Hoopdriver Posts: 2,023
    GiantMike wrote:
    marz wrote:
    So you would be ok if Instagram sold a picture of your face to Viagra to use in their next ad campaign?

    Step away from the rhetoric. I can't see where it says that Instagram will sell photos for use by advertisers. I've seen a lot of internet hatred about it, but I haven't seen the bit in T&Cs where they say they will do that. If they say they will do that, then I agree with the OP (as I have stated).

    Could you show me where it says they could sell my photo to Viagra? I think the T&C....

    "a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos, and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you."

    ...refers to internal content, not external.
    Obviously nobody has singled out a particular advertiser so asking where it says they would sell your face to Viagra is facile. What they are, or were, claiming for themselves us the right to sell your photos without recompense to you. An analogy that you might understand would be, say, if you were to post a photo of you riding your pride and joy bicycle in BR and the good folks at BR then sold it to Giant or Trek or Bianchi (whatever) for use in their next ad campaign, and then perhaps to a health fund for use in one of their campaigns, and then maybe to the british tourism board because there is a nice landscape in the background. They make good money with these sales but you do not see a cent.

    Later on it transpires that one of the people in the background takes exception to their image being used in an ad - it is at this point that BR steps back and says it has nothing to do with them, that you as the photographer bears the liability.

    You would be happy with this scenario?
  • GiantMike
    GiantMike Posts: 3,139
    Hoopdriver wrote:
    You would be happy with this scenario?

    No, I wouldn't. But I can't find where it says that Instagram can sell your photos outside of the Instagram site. I read this...
    ...you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you.

    ...to mean that Instagram could place an ad in proximity to your content, or use your content to support sponsored content on the site.

    For example:

    BUY CHIPS FROM MRS MIGGINS CHIP SHOPlance-armstrong-6_2318734b.jpg

    If you are posting your photos on a website you have already lost control of them. I think a lot of people are insinuating dodginess from Instagram who have immediately revised the wording of their T&Cs in the face of internet opposition (but not actually changed them).
  • marz
    marz Posts: 130
    GiantMike wrote:
    marz wrote:
    So you would be ok if Instagram sold a picture of your face to Viagra to use in their next ad campaign?

    Step away from the rhetoric. I can't see where it says that Instagram will sell photos for use by advertisers. I've seen a lot of internet hatred about it, but I haven't seen the bit in T&Cs where they say they will do that. If they say they will do that, then I agree with the OP (as I have stated).

    Could you show me where it says they could sell my photo to Viagra? I think the T&C....

    "a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos, and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you."

    ...refers to internal content, not external.

    Tomate-o/tomat-o, and they will (if they don't modify their terms) sell ad space within their site and they may sell space to a company like Viagra and associate your picture with that ad. So yes, not selling your photo to Viagra, just selling them ad space and using your face with the ad.
  • Hoopdriver
    Hoopdriver Posts: 2,023
    GiantMike wrote:
    Hoopdriver wrote:
    You would be happy with this scenario?

    No, I wouldn't. But I can't find where it says that Instagram can sell your photos outside of the Instagram site. I read this...
    ...you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you.

    ...to mean that Instagram could place an ad in proximity to your content, or use your content to support sponsored content on the site.

    For example:

    BUY CHIPS FROM MRS MIGGINS CHIP SHOPlance-armstrong-6_2318734b.jpg

    If you are posting your photos on a website you have already lost control of them. I think a lot of people are insinuating dodginess from Instagram who have immediately revised the wording of their T&Cs in the face of internet opposition (but not actually changed them).
    That is not what it means.

    But suit yourself. If you're happy with Instagram, and its policies, by all means keep using them.

    I never have used it, and never will. I was just pointing out a deadline and potential pitfall for those who do. It is not just me - BBC, CNN, and Time were also pointing this out, as were many photography websites.
  • desweller
    desweller Posts: 5,175
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    If you're not paying for a service, you are the service. Did no-one learn from Facebook?
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