Why are recruiters bad at English?
willhub
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I mean, they must have Microsoft Word in front of them, stuff is just not formatted properly, or even spelt properly. I'm not the best with English and grammar but I sure as hell could do a better job than these people.
They're not just bad at English, but at communication too, some don't seem to answer emails or get back to you on the dog and bone.
They're not just bad at English, but at communication too, some don't seem to answer emails or get back to you on the dog and bone.
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Fraid to say that if they don't get back to you its generally because they don't think they can place you.Cannondale Supersix / CAAD9 / Boardman 9.0 / Benotto 30000
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I was recruited by MI6 and their english was impekibble.
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momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
Had one phone up today & tell me he was a 'Talent Acquisition Specialist'!
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Will, your written communication skills are laughably terrible. Are you taking the p@ss?0
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I don't know what pass you're on about.0
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oscarbudgie wrote:Fraid to say that if they don't get back to you its generally because they don't think they can place you.
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And if you saw the kind of dreadful applications received, you wouldn't be convinced that a reply would be understood by the person at the other end even if they allege that English is their first language - all evidence to the contrary.0 -
I had someone from get back to my application to a graduate scheme with the offer of a telephone interview, with the instruction that I should be in a "quite" place.
Made me feel slightly better about a mistake I noticed on my own CV.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
I had an application for a grad scheme which told me the young lady was hard working, quick to learn and had a 100% attendance record through university.
The 6 years she took to get a 3rd in accountancy made me doubt that all of these could be true."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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A 3rd???
I've always being told, even by tutors, if you get a 3rd then you've wasted yer money, as a 3rd is next to useless.0 -
Quality of recruitment is usually proportional to what people in that industry area / of that seniority are earning.
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Rick Chasey wrote:Quality of recruitment is usually proportional to what people in that industry area / of that seniority are earning.
Do the mods on here earn much?0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Quality of recruitment is usually proportional to what people in that industry area / of that seniority are earning.
Spot on - headhunting in the true sense rarely works below about £100k per annum as below that its simply not worth the hassle of properly interviewing folks to sift them out. Real headhunting means a lot more than just calling up people on LinkedIn or whose CV is on Monster or CVLibrary and asking if they are interested in a job. Real headhunting is done out of hours, and is fairly 'covert' and targets specific individuals in identified companies.
People often say they have been approached by a headhunter when actually they have been approached by a researcher working for what is known in the trade as an Agency. Agencies work on a % of salary close to 10%, a no place-no fee basis, they do no face to face interviewing, they do no psychometric interviewing and they just lob your CV, spelling mistakes and all, into a large pile with anyone else whose CV has the right keywords. This is why so many people don't get a reply from the people they talk to - they are one of several dozen folks and the client is not going to waste their time doing feedback for the ones they didn't like, so the agency will have no idea at all. The client will frequently ask several agencies to work in parallel. Their completion rate is something close to 25% of assignments so they work on bulk. If you get a job spec you'll be lucky but it'll actually be a cut & paste of the clients spec so any spelling mistakes are those of the client. If your salary is less than about £50k a headhunter is very unlikely to call you unless your skills are pretty unique.
Headhunters spend a lot more time doing interviews, psyc, face to face meetings, rewriting CV's, comprehensive notes which fill in the blanks and may even contain scoring matrices against desired objectives to rank candidates down to about 3 or 4 candidates. That costs a lot more but typically has a completion rate of 80%+, and they will correct your typing mistakes in your CV. They get paid a lot more s they are 'retained' to fill a job and part of that is money up front to stop the client from wasting their time by changing their minds. Its why companies have strict rules about who can use headhunters as the main reason hunting fails is the client changing their mind, or being unwilling to pay the price for what they have asked. Headhunters are given exclusivity on an assignment as the target list will be quite small and its pointless asking several companies to ring the same person.
Head hunters hunt and agencies farm databases. Headhunters don't use Monster.co.uk or CVLibrary.0 -
I have a 2:1
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I got a 3rd.
But the whole 3 years would have been useless even if I got a 1st. I hated University."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Tut tut.. never start a sentence with "and".
I think that comma is superfluous too."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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There is nothing wrong with the comma, if you speak it out, it sounds perfectly fine......0
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willhub wrote:There is nothing wrong with the comma. If you speak it out, it sounds perfectly fine.
Well yes, but that doesn't mean it is punctuated correctly does it? See my fix above.
A sentence is a statement."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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willhub wrote:There is nothing wrong with the comma, if you speak it out, it sounds perfectly fine......
To you perhaps, Will. However, as there is a reasonable chance you are an unemployable moron I think we'd better obtain a second opinion. Mine.
Your use of English is terrible.
As this is a cycling forum and not a writing forum perhaps it doesn't matter that much, though your choice of topic on this particular thread does leave you somewhat exposed to criticism in this area.
What about an adult education class at the local secondary school? Most do them and they could probably improve your chances of getting into some type of paid employment.
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Bad form to type in capitals too.disgruntledgoat wrote:Tut tut.. never start a sentence with "and".
I think that comma is superfluous too.
Spot the recruiter?0 -
tiredofwhiners wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Quality of recruitment is usually proportional to what people in that industry area / of that seniority are earning.
Spot on - headhunting in the true sense rarely works below about £100k per annum as below that its simply not worth the hassle of properly interviewing folks to sift them out. Real headhunting means a lot more than just calling up people on LinkedIn or whose CV is on Monster or CVLibrary and asking if they are interested in a job. Real headhunting is done out of hours, and is fairly 'covert' and targets specific individuals in identified companies.
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If your salary is less than about £50k a headhunter is very unlikely to call you unless your skills are pretty unique.
Headhunters spend a lot more time doing interviews, psyc, face to face meetings, rewriting CV's, comprehensive notes which fill in the blanks and may even contain scoring matrices against desired objectives to rank candidates down to about 3 or 4 candidates. <snip>
and they will correct your typing mistakes in your CV.
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