Carbon 50mm x 23 mm Clincher

gbr236

Hi
Looking for some wide carbon clinchers.
But where from...?
Anyone with any direct import experience? Do I need to factor in any duty?
Thanks

Anonymous

planet x? 300 quid

gbr236

As far as i can see on their website, Planetx do not sell a 50mm clincher that is also wide profile (23mm)
PLease correct me if ive missed something.

asprilla

Hed Jet 4s are 23mm x 46mm and Jet 6s are 23mm x 60mm.

bails1310

viewtopic.php?f=40042&t=12776517&hilit=Guide+Chinese

napoleond

Try www.wheelsmith.co.uk

cougie

gbr236 wrote:

As far as i can see on their website, Planetx do not sell a 50mm clincher that is also wide profile (23mm)
PLease correct me if ive missed something.

The width of the rim you mean ? Their wheels take 23mm tyres if thats any help?

ugo.santalucia

If you are looking for deep carbon rims and a ride that mimics that of a tubular, the question you should be asking is "what is the best value for money set of tubular wheels out there?"

You are going quite a way and spend a lot of money to avoid getting the best product... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press? With the money you save you can get yourself 10 quality tubular tyres, which is probably more than you will ever need

majormantra

Soul wheels might be worth a look. Their new stuff is just going online: http://beta.bikesoul.com/

If you buy from outside the EU then it's likely, but not guaranteed that you'll have to pay duty/taxes/handling fees. My rule of thumb is to budget about 20% extra for stuff and if I don't get hit then great, if I do it doesn't matter because I allowed for it.

procycling100

wheelsmith is very good, derek from scotland builds for alot of pro guys aswell...

bails1310

ugo.santalucia wrote:

... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press?

..........fear of getting a puncture on the road for the first time and how easy it is to fix...........for me anyway.

LegendLust

bails1310 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press?

..........fear of getting a puncture on the road for the first time and how easy it is to fix...........for me anyway.

That's easily sorted. Take a spare tub with you. Whipping the old tub off and putting the new one on is very quick. In fact probably quicker than fannying about with a very tight clincher. The send the punctured one here http://www.tubular-repairs.com/

Or fill your tubs with sealant.

bails1310

LegendLust wrote:

bails1310 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press?

..........fear of getting a puncture on the road for the first time and how easy it is to fix...........for me anyway.

That's easily sorted. Take a spare tub with you. Whipping the old tub off and putting the new one on is very quick. In fact probably quicker than fannying about with a very tight clincher. The send the punctured one here http://www.tubular-repairs.com/

Or fill your tubs with sealant.

School boy question: how do you get on with glueing at the side of the road, or do you not need to get you home?

Assume when you get home, it's not too difficult to clean up the rim before refitting it properly?

Tubs appear [generally] to be lighter & cheaper to buy than their clincher relatives so big tick, there, I just need some comfort on the upkeep of them.

ugo.santalucia

bails1310 wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press?

..........fear of getting a puncture on the road for the first time and how easy it is to fix...........for me anyway.

If you have fitted the original tubulars on yourself, I don't see why you would not be able to do it again...
Many things can happen beyond your control... fitting a tubular should not be one of the scary ones

Velonutter

When I ride Tubulars on the road I take some pitstop just in case it can fix the hole and have ridden 80+ miles to get me home previously.

Alternatively take some spare tape and a couple of spare tubs one in your back pocket and the other under your saddle bag and you should be fine.

Because of the pressure tubs are less prone to punctures, saying that I had 4 this year but would have had more if on clinchers.

If you pre stretch your tubs then I can change including apply new tape quicker than changing a clincher.

petemadoc

ugo.santalucia wrote:

If you are looking for deep carbon rims and a ride that mimics that of a tubular, the question you should be asking is "what is the best value for money set of tubular wheels out there?"

You are going quite a way and spend a lot of money to avoid getting the best product... why people are so scared of tubular tyres? Do they get such bad press? With the money you save you can get yourself 10 quality tubular tyres, which is probably more than you will ever need

This was my thought when I bought some new wheels. All the clinchers are trying to "be just like tubs" so I though fck it I'll buy some tubs then. Can't wait top get the nice bike re-built and ride the things.

cougie

Refitting a tub in pi$$y down rain and cold isnt much fun. Last time I tried that - the thing wanted to roll off on corners.

Tony Martin won his worlds TT title on tyres. So why would I use tubs ? OK the ride feels good - but if you use sealant- surely thats going to slow you down too ?

If you're racing and have a team car - then maybe - but for me - I don't see the benefit and my tubs have flatted a lot more than my normal tyres over the last few years.

ugo.santalucia

cougie wrote:

Refitting a tub in pi$$y down rain and cold isnt much fun. Last time I tried that - the thing wanted to roll off on corners.

Tony Martin won his worlds TT title on tyres. So why would I use tubs ? OK the ride feels good - but if you use sealant- surely thats going to slow you down too ?

If you're racing and have a team car - then maybe - but for me - I don't see the benefit and my tubs have flatted a lot more than my normal tyres over the last few years.

Tony Martin chose to ride wheels with an alloy brake track because it was wet... otherwise he would have gone for tubulars.
So the message is not to ride carbon tubulars in pouring rain... which makes sense, as the wheels will perform badly... problem solved.
Who buys carbon tubulars with the idea of using them in pouring rain? That's why we have more than one bike, more than one set of wheels and reliable weather forecasts.

dmclite-3.0

Have a look at Fuerte Bici carbon wheels.

Velonutter

ugo.santalucia wrote:

cougie wrote:

Refitting a tub in pi$$y down rain and cold isnt much fun. Last time I tried that - the thing wanted to roll off on corners.

Tony Martin won his worlds TT title on tyres. So why would I use tubs ? OK the ride feels good - but if you use sealant- surely thats going to slow you down too ?

If you're racing and have a team car - then maybe - but for me - I don't see the benefit and my tubs have flatted a lot more than my normal tyres over the last few years.

Tony Martin chose to ride wheels with an alloy brake track because it was wet... otherwise he would have gone for tubulars.
So the message is not to ride carbon tubulars in pouring rain... which makes sense, as the wheels will perform badly... problem solved.
Who buys carbon tubulars with the idea of using them in pouring rain? That's why we have more than one bike, more than one set of wheels and reliable weather forecasts.

Yep what he says ^

cougie

In my defence I was a teen and only had the one bike - and that had tubs on.

LOL at the reliable weather forecasts though ! :-)

mroli

I was a tub sceptic, but seriously, if you carry tape it is mega easy to change them. Maybe not in the middle of winter - but then I'm not riding my best race tyres either... Or carbon wheels non-stop for that matter.

petemadoc

Hurrah for tubs

I'm so freeking excited to ride my new tubs.....

#needtogetalife :roll:

thegreatdivide

Sorry to be a pedant but Tony Martin as well as the whole of AG2R rode clinchers for the 2012 season - rain or shine.

But I’m going tubs for 2013. Life’s too short etc.

ugo.santalucia

thegreatdivide wrote:

Sorry to be a pedant but Tony Martin as well as the whole of AG2R rode clinchers for the 2012 season - rain or shine.

But I’m going tubs for 2013. Life’s too short etc.

In fact he lost a gold medal he should have won... on paper would you bet Wiggins against Tony Martin on a 25 miles flat TT?
Maybe he wins in the absence of real competition, but he could do better with the tubs. Frankly, when Cancellara is out of action, he could probably win a TT on knobbly tyres

meesterbond

Didn't he chose clinchers originally because he wanted the better braking the clincher rims gave him on a wet, twisty course in Copenhagen? That said, I don't remember the London course being particularly wet or having too many 90 degree bends.

Given that he uses HED and Continental, both who'll happily supply tubular wheels / tyres he must be riding them out of choice so can't feel that he's at any disadvantage from them.

That said, having had the misfortune of having to try and mount a pair of Continental tubs, if I was his mechanic I'd be trying to keep him using clinchers... they are the devil's tyre.

thegreatdivide

He rides Zipp's now and uses the new Specialized clincher tyre

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gallery/a ... -34440/53/

kingrollo

Not quite sure what the 23mm measurement is.

I brought the planet x carbon clinchers 50mm - £399 - full warranty, no import hassles, reasonable quality.

your circumstances\requirements might be different- I only wanted carbon wheels for the bling factor (sad but true!)- so the alu rim, carbon fairing provided the durability i needed at the right price.

if you're more serious, then as the other guys say tubs are lighter and somewhat cheaper - otherwise the planet x look hard to beat

rolf_f

kingrollo wrote:

your circumstances\requirements might be different- I only wanted carbon wheels for the bling factor (sad but true!)- so the alu rim, carbon fairing provided the durability i needed at the right price.

Sorry to have to tell you but aluminium rims with deep fairings aren't bling - they just tell everyone the owner is confused

But seriously, credit for admitting what no-one else does!

kingrollo

Rolf F wrote:

kingrollo wrote:

your circumstances\requirements might be different- I only wanted carbon wheels for the bling factor (sad but true!)- so the alu rim, carbon fairing provided the durability i needed at the right price.

Sorry to have to tell you but aluminium rims with deep fairings aren't bling - they just tell everyone the owner is confused

But seriously, credit for admitting what no-one else does!

bails1310

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50mm-clincher ... 4abf7d04c5 ??