what hardtail frame...

M1llh0use
M1llh0use Posts: 863
edited December 2012 in MTB buying advice
possibly a re-occuring question but here goes....


What Steel HT frames are there with a 44mm/tapered headtube and full cable routing?

and which one would you lot buy?
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  • 26 or 29er?
    Planet X Kaffenback 2
    Giant Trance X2
    Genesis High Latitude 2x10
    Planet X n2a
    Genesis Core 20
  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    and what type of usage?

    If looking for a general XC / trail bike, how about the Cotic Soul and Pipedream Sirius
  • sorry - not nearly enough info in the first post!

    going to be built mainly from existing parts and for xc/trail centre use.

    bits i have already to use:

    26" wheels (mavic crosstrail)
    120/150 talas tapered steerer (cut to 205mm, this may prove to be important!)
    easton haven bars/stem


    so a frame to suit the forks would be a starting point...
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  • oodboo
    oodboo Posts: 2,171
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  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    Unless you want to run the forks constantly at 120 I don't think the frames I mentioned would be suitable.

    Maybe have a look at the Cotic BFe or one of the Ragley frames or On One Carbon 456. I know you said steel frame but if you want to use a 150mm fork I think C456 is one of the best options for the kind of riding you said.
  • Should we assume you already have an Onone 456 summer season, from your avatar?
    Planet X Kaffenback 2
    Giant Trance X2
    Genesis High Latitude 2x10
    Planet X n2a
    Genesis Core 20
  • actually no, that was 3 biks ago!!

    I've just got a spicy 516 after getting rid of a fuel ex8 which i'm a bit concerend might be a bit much for bimbling around my little training route.
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  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    Ah well in that case. I think a 120mm hardtail would supplement a spicy very well then. So back to my original suggestions of Cotic Soul and Pipedream.

    As a temp measure drop your forks to 120mm using the Talas system and possibly look at a permanent travel change in the future as when funds allow ... ?
  • sirius is 1 1/8" head tube from what i can tell so it's a soul or a C456 unless there are any other sugestions....
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  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    WHAT’S NEW?
    • Reynolds 853 butted main tubes
    • Custom tapered head tube (34/44 id)
    • Gusseted TT/HT/DT junction
    • Sliding dropouts
    • 19mm seatstays
    • Bridgeless chain stays
    • 2 sets of bottle bosses
    • Curved seatstay bridge
  • ah. ok missed that bit!
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    34/44 is a standard external top cup, and the fitting for a Zerostack bottom cup - which can be, of course, fitted with an external cup to run a tapered steerer. But why not just leave it 44/44 to increase options ie run a full Zerostack with 1.125 steerer?
  • dusk
    dusk Posts: 583
    I was in a similar situation and bought a Cotic bFe, it's a great frame
    YT Wicked 160 ltd
    Cotic BFe
    DMR Trailstar
    Canyon Roadlite
  • Jamis Dragon, 650b it's the way forward.
    Planet X Kaffenback 2
    Giant Trance X2
    Genesis High Latitude 2x10
    Planet X n2a
    Genesis Core 20
  • not doing 650b...
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  • M1llh0use wrote:
    not doing 650b...
    Any particular reason for not doing 650b?
    Planet X Kaffenback 2
    Giant Trance X2
    Genesis High Latitude 2x10
    Planet X n2a
    Genesis Core 20
  • to be built from existing parts:
    bits i have already to use:

    26" wheels (mavic crosstrail)
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    So use your 26"in the 650B frame.....it only affects BB height by 1/2"!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.