New Back wheel

apple eater
apple eater Posts: 302
edited November 2012 in MTB workshop & tech
I'm looking to buy a new back wheel.

I have a carerra vulcan disc spec, 2011 model. The bike has already had cheap sun rims put on by the previous owner.

On the weekend i wrecked the rear wheel. At the moment it has a 7 speed cassette but is actually built with 8. So aswell as buying a new wheel i'll also need a cassette.

The current rim has a 9mm qr hub fitted. Do i need to buy a rim with the same hub or will other hub types fit?
Ideally i don't want to spend more than £50 - £60. Can anyone recommend me a rim?

I would like the stronger double wall construction type rim as i am a heavy bloke who gives his bike a bit of a beating.

If any more information is needed, just ask for it and I'll get it. I'm no expert on part names/types but i'll do my best.

Thanks
I don't know enough to make smart r's remarks about peoples choice of parts 'n' things, yet!

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  • Greer_
    Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/w ... -sale.html for a single wheel or http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/w ... lizer.html for a pair :)

    the hubs can be different (as in different makes, it will still have to be a standard QR) and any cassette will fit. If you have an 8 speed shifter/mech fit an 8 speed cassette.
  • Greer_
    Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    And you can also transfer the disc brake rotor from the old wheel to the new one. What did you do to the old wheel out of interest?!
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Just to clarify, the standard rear is 10mm not 9mm (that's front).

    Personally I'd look for some good used ones locally.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

    I have been out to bike shops today and all anyone wanted to sell me were crappy unbranded £50 wheels. Anyone know if there has been a job lot of cheapo's dumped in the UK?

    I didn't see anything that i wanted to spend on so i've decided to build a new wheel. I'll be using my existing hub as it seems ok, it did used to have an annoying rotational click but that has gone (it was probably a bit of muck), so i'm happy to carry on using it.

    So I am looking for a rim and spokes.

    I've found this rim
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=71049

    and this one
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=23698

    and this one
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=12375

    anyone know what these are like? I do a mixture of xc and a little bit of 2 - 4 foot jumping occasionaly and i have a 2.4 rear tyre which i would like to keep.

    What spokes would you recommend?
    I don't know enough to make smart r's remarks about peoples choice of parts 'n' things, yet!
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Do you have a wheel building jig? You may be taking on here more than you realise!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • mcnultycop
    mcnultycop Posts: 2,143
    Where do you live? I can do you a cheap used rear wheel that's done next to no miles since I did the bearings and freehub.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I'd just look at some on Merlin. The set linked to above are a decent bargain - nothing wrong with Sun Ringle rims - the Equalisers are decent XC stuff.
    http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/w ... lizer.html

    Probably need some new centrelock rotors but you can pick them up cheap, and you get a new wheelset for pretty much your budget.
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Or a slightly chunkier rear in budget, six bolt.
    http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/w ... 0-rim.html
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  • Greer_
    Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    The wheels CD and I linked are fully built wheels, not just rims as the pictures show.
  • Thanks for the info guys. I decided that as I only want top spend once I am going to build a rim.

    I bought a Mavic XC 717 rim today. When speaking with the guy in the shop he said there are different length spokes so i need to figure out which length i need. He said the could fit the rim with new spokes for £30 all in if i supply the rim and hub. Then he said about the spoke length issue.

    So i said if i bring my old wheel for them to take off and re use the hub would that be ok? He didn't really have an answer.

    What's the situation with spokes and length etc? I'm not building it myself as I don't want to muck it up.
    I don't know enough to make smart r's remarks about peoples choice of parts 'n' things, yet!
  • Greer_
    Greer_ Posts: 1,716
    There's spoke length calculators somewhere that you'll need to use. Other than that i've no idea, sorry!
  • So, you've spent more than your budget. The spokes might or might not be any good, depends on the hub. But then if you reuse the hub and old spokes if might not fit the rim as it might have a different erd. Sound like you should have just bought a built wheel?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Any decent wheel builder can use a spoke calculator. If he can't I'd find another.
    You can remove the spokes yourself - if they do it they'll charge.
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  • I decided to re use the hub as i'm happy with it. Shopping around has shown that my budget clearly wasn't enough when it came to a new wheel. So i will strip my old wheel and get them to rebuild with new spokes etc. I'll leave the technical know how to those who know. If i do it i'll wreck it.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    PMSL, you could buy a decent new wheel for £60, as it is you'll spend £20 on a rim, £15 on spokes and £30 on a build....or you could have spent about £25-30 on a good used one.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • PMSL, you could buy a decent new wheel for £60, as it is you'll spend £20 on a rim, £15 on spokes and £30 on a build....or you could have spent about £25-30 on a good used one.

    No need to wet yourself. It cost £30 for the rim, £30 for the rebuild including spokes. So £60 for a wheel with a new rim/spokes and a known good hub. I'm happy with that. I didn't want to buy a used wheel to find out it was a pile of doo doo. I'd then have had to start a "got ripped off" thread. :wink:
    I don't know enough to make smart r's remarks about peoples choice of parts 'n' things, yet!
  • I bought a Mavic XC 717 rim today.

    Top drawer rim.

    So what sort of hub do you have?
  • So I picked my wheel up today and got the bargain of the week. Free spokes :D

    I have one question, since the wheel is newly built, will i need to run it in so to speak and then get it checked or do i just run it until it needs attention?
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    If it's been built properly it should be fine, but check the spoke tension regularly anyway.
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