Am I Being cynical?

J555
J555 Posts: 11
edited November 2012 in Road buying advice
I was in my local bike shop at the weekend picking up some lights for my bike. I'm on a specialized allez at the moment as I've just completed my first season tri racing. I'm looking to step it up a level next year an a new bike is my focus (aside training).

I've had my eye on a boardman 9.8 air for months as months now and enquirer in the shop about the one hanging up and if prices would drop or are negotiable.. He said no but pulled my attention to a trek modena(sp) 9.5. Explaining it has electronic gears etc and for less££. My view was the wheels alone would make up the difference in price and having SRAM red also is more than enough for me.

I'm just after your thoughts really. He is unable to let me take either out for a test ride which would have helped.

Comments

  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    I'm not sure if your title was intentional, but it's a great pun!
  • Raffles
    Raffles Posts: 1,137
    doesnt strike me as the most accomodating dealer, if i asked for a demo and was refused id tell him to shove it and look elsewhere
    2012 Cannondale CAAD 8 105
  • J555
    J555 Posts: 11
    lc1981 wrote:
    I'm not sure if your title was intentional, but it's a great pun!


    Haha 1st post and I typo.. Good start eh.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    J555 wrote:
    He said no but pulled my attention to a trek modena(sp) 9.5.

    He is unable to let me take either out for a test ride which would have helped.

    Find a better shop
  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    J555 wrote:
    lc1981 wrote:
    I'm not sure if your title was intentional, but it's a great pun!


    Haha 1st post and I typo.. Good start eh.

    For posterity, and for anyone reading this now it's been corrected, the original title was "Am I Beijing cynical?".
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    ShutUpLegs wrote:
    J555 wrote:
    He said no but pulled my attention to a trek modena(sp) 9.5.

    He is unable to let me take either out for a test ride which would have helped.

    Find a better shop

    +1. Spending that sort of money they can not really expect folk to just part with the cash without knowing what they are like.

    For me I am not convinced with electronic shifting (just another thing to break) and I am also not entirely convinced that Boardman has fixed the BB30 issue on their frames (in fact I remain unconvinced with BB30 at all).

    There are plenty of other options out there and plenty of other shops that will let you ride stuff first.

    Keep looking.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    smidsy wrote:
    For me I am not convinced with electronic shifting (just another thing to break) and I am also not entirely convinced that Boardman has fixed the BB30 issue on their frames (in fact I remain unconvinced with BB30 at all).

    Doesn't your CAAD have BB30? The SuperSix certainly does.
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Give Tribecca Sport a call in Kent if you're close. They'll let you try a Boardman.
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    if you're serious about triathlons - why spend 5k on a road bike ?
  • pkripper
    pkripper Posts: 652
    cougie wrote:
    if you're serious about triathlons - why spend 5k on a road bike ?

    +1

    Allez to £5k? If you've got the money, fair enough, but it's a hell of a jump. Maybe a felt AR4 or similar is a better bet?
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    If you've got that much money to spend - split it. Get a nice TT bike for racing on and a nice road bike to do most of the training on. That will get you faster race times than just the one road bike. No need to go OTT on either bike.

    I
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    lc1981 wrote:
    smidsy wrote:
    For me I am not convinced with electronic shifting (just another thing to break) and I am also not entirely convinced that Boardman has fixed the BB30 issue on their frames (in fact I remain unconvinced with BB30 at all).

    Doesn't your CAAD have BB30? The SuperSix certainly does.

    No the first BB30 frame was the CAAD6, which is basically the CAAD5 with a BB30. Th CAAD5 is normal english thread BB.

    My Basso is also English thread BB although it is in an oversized BB shell for added stiffness. Just can't reconcile the BB30 thing, far too many stories of failures and noisy BB's for my liking.

    If I was to go BB30 it would only be on a Cannondale as they invented it and I trust their frame build more than say Boardman for example.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • J555
    J555 Posts: 11
    Guys, thanks for all your help and advice so far. I understand it's a massive jump but I'm serious about the sport and I'm putting a hell of a lot of effort into training.

    I'm in a position where money isn't a barrier (I don't want to come accross the wrong way here) and I identified the boardman through tons of magazine reviews and scouring forums.

    I've not thought about splitting the money between a TT and an upgraded road bike but that is sound advice indeed. The reason I was looking at the boardman is I want a light aero road bike because alongside my triathlon races I have entered a couple of sportives and wanted something I can use for both.

    I'm not one for spending money for the sake of it but I am after a top end bike really that I can enjoy both racing tri and other sportives etc the electronic gears aren't really a pull for me and in my bike shop he was using that as the pull from the boardman.

    The two bike thing has got me thinking. It would take me another 6 months to pick them though haha
  • J555
    J555 Posts: 11
    cougie wrote:
    If you've got that much money to spend - split it. Get a nice TT bike for racing on and a nice road bike to do most of the training on. That will get you faster race times than just the one road bike. No need to go OTT on either bike.

    I

    Any pointers on what you would look at for both?
  • Shopping local is essential when you're spending a lot. What shops do you have locally? and what do they stock?
  • J555
    J555 Posts: 11
    mallott wrote:
    Shopping local is essential when you're spending a lot. What shops do you have locally? and what do they stock?

    I'm in the Chester area. Which has a specialized concept store, bike factory store and a couple of other small shops. On what I've seen I'm limited to specialized, trek, boardman really.
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Get down to Paul Hewitt in Leyland a positive Alladins cave of good stuff.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • J555
    J555 Posts: 11
    smidsy wrote:
    Get down to Paul Hewitt in Leyland a positive Alladins cave of good stuff.

    I'll check that out mate,thanks :wink:
  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    smidsy wrote:
    No the first BB30 frame was the CAAD6, which is basically the CAAD5 with a BB30. Th CAAD5 is normal english thread BB.

    My Basso is also English thread BB although it is in an oversized BB shell for added stiffness. Just can't reconcile the BB30 thing, far too many stories of failures and noisy BB's for my liking.

    If I was to go BB30 it would only be on a Cannondale as they invented it and I trust their frame build more than say Boardman for example.

    Oh right, I see. Well, if you do buy a SuperSix and don't get on with the BB30, I'd happily give it a home!

    Sorry for hijacking the thread, by the way.
  • passout
    passout Posts: 4,425
    smidsy wrote:
    Get down to Paul Hewitt in Leyland a positive Alladins cave of good stuff.


    I second that one. The fitting service alone is worth it.
    'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    There's also Royles in Wilmslow - they have some nice kit too.

    TBH - get whatever you like and what fits you. There's really not a lot to choose performance wise. I reckon a 1000 TT bike would whoop a 5k road bike over a triathlon though.