Mudguards

skyblueamateur

After getting absolutely covered in mud on saturday think it's time to put the Cinelli away for this year and get out the old sturdy Carrera Virtuoso.

Could anyone recommend some cheap mudguards that will do the job please? I think the Virtuso has eyelets for guards. Are these any good? - http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... 10163#tab1

Thanks

alfablue

Those don't use the mudgaurd mounts, they are designed for temporary fixing, and most of these types are unsatisfactory or annoying.

SKS p35 Mudguards are the best (£23 on Wiggle), they cost more but there is nothing worse than mudguards that flap about / rub the tyres / need constant adjustment. The p35s are fit and forget, very strong too, and will last years.

simon_masterson

SKS for me too; they work very well. If you really want to go belt and braces you can add mud flaps too...

skyblueamateur

Great stuff. Thanks for the advice. Have invested in a set.

Was dry-ish on saturday but didn't stop me gettin absolutely caked in mud from the road.

houndlegs

Can someone recommend a set that doesn't need eyelets on the bike to fix to?
I fitted a set of crud road racers 2 about a month ago and the back one snapped in half the other day :x ,I've no idea what happened,the only thing I can think of is something got trapped between wheel and guard,though I can't see how that would happen unless something actually stuck to the tyre.
Scared the living crap outta me as well.

chrisaonabike

houndlegs wrote:

Can someone recommend a set that doesn't need eyelets on the bike to fix to?
I fitted a set of crud road racers 2 about a month ago and the back one snapped in half the other day :x ,I've no idea what happened,the only thing I can think of is something got trapped between wheel and guard,though I can't see how that would happen unless something actually stuck to the tyre.
Scared the living crap outta me as well.

If something can get so stuck that it snaps a crud, I can imagine it could do whole lot more if it got stuck in something that didn't snap.

What actually snapped? The rear crud is in three pieces anyway - did it snap at any of the joins?

If you can work out what happened at all from the bits you have left, I'd be interested - I've just fitted some cruds and loud bangs from the back are something I'd want to avoid!!

smidsy

Sounds like the cruds did what they are designed to. I'll wager that if you had fixed metal guards you would have come off much worse.

Probably flicked up some debris which then got trapped in the gap.

Just get some more cruds and avoid running over stuff.

briantrumpet

Incidentally, you have to pay for spare parts for Cruds now, but ordering the right bit is easy: http://www.crudproducts.com/products/spares - really annoying though when you've just lost one of the little screw & nut thingies.

Bordersroadie

Simon Masterson wrote:

SKS for me too; they work very well. If you really want to go belt and braces you can add mud flaps too...

Totally agree. Adding a (home made) front mudflap makes a huge improvement to an already excellent 'guard (SKS 35mm). Glide through high speed puddles without even getting your feet wet, and the amount of sh1te that gets onto your front mech/chainset/chain is reduced dramatically. Make the flap long, mine ends only 60mm from the road, but make it from something that will flex (mine's a section of large size Flash bottle which happens to be a similar profile to the SKS 'guard) for kerbs, lumpy tracks etc.

Piccy:

houndlegs

@ Chris...it broke at the rear join and also half way between rear join and front join,curiously straight down the middle,as opposed to snapping across it.
@ Smidsy....yeah good job it was the guard that went and not anything else,just a bit annoyed it only lasted such a short time,and with hindsight I don't suppose riding a country lane covered in leaves and small twigs from the winds was such a good idea.
@Brian....thanks for that,I didn't realise you could get spares,I'll have a look now.

smidsy

Twigs will deffo do what you described.

If that had been a metal guard with eyelets you would possibly have been off the bike so Cruds Rule!!!!!

kingofthetailwind

Sorry to hijack the thread - but if you have eyelets should you always go for full mudguards? The clip on ones like Crud mk2s seem lighter? And easier to remove?

smidsy

There are no rules but Cruds were designed for bikes that have no eyelets as they simply 'strap' on.

If I had eyelets I see no reason why I would not get proper guards, but I do not so I have cruds.

keef66

I have eyelets and clearance for proper guards. Never crossed my mind to use anything but SKS chromoplastics.

Come the summer, should there be one, they are but a 10 minute job to remove.

alfablue

The3 problem with cruds is that they hug the tyre, so any crud that gets in there (ironically) will be a problem, whereas a little clearance such as SKS Chromoplastics provide is a benefit.

Also, as discussed above, if a twig gets into the fron mudguard, the SKS guards have a quick release so your wheel will not lock, and your guard will not break.

smidsy

The Cruds have the quick release (break away) system and are designed to prevent things like twigs getting stuck and throwing you off. Crud can supply all the individual parts if anything breaks.

Also technicallly they do not hug the tyre, rather they float a few mm over it. There has to be a gap otherwise they would rub constantly - which when set up properly they do not.

Each system has its place and for me without eyelets the Cruds are the only sensible choice.

alfablue

smidsy wrote:

Each system has its place and for me without eyelets the Cruds are the only sensible choice.

agreed, tried clip on SKS guards (which look like the OP's suggestion from Halfords) and they were just annoying, if no mounts the Crud it is, but the OP has mounts so I would say p35s.