Never happy! looking at new frames, Kuota or De Rosa

Only just finished my Moda Stretto in October but already looking longingly at other frames for next build. Not in any hurry about this but looking towards getting either a De Rosa R838 or Kuota Kom Evo. Wondered if anyone had good bad things to say about either? Not sure how they would stack up against each other, and will only be buying a frame when I do, as I really like the build process.
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It rides really well though.. Front end is really solid as is the bb area, plenty stiff
The only negative thing i have to say about it is that i think they went slightly overboard graphics wise and so ive used some matt black vinyl to tone down the look of mine