Wiggins burns on bonfire
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Well I can certainly understand wanting to burn Mitt Romney but Wiggins? Also Geri Halliwell? Has she actually done anything in the last 5 years? Wierd choice...0
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There were some strange choices this year such as the Queen and Neil Armstrong.
It appears that Geri Halliwell sung at the closing ceremony, so this effigy must be about the Olympics as a whole. Wiggins seems a reasonable choice for that. Still not sure about the guy - think it must be someone involved in the Olympics.0 -
Alan A wrote:They appear to be Mitt Romney & Geri Halliwell
http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/Sedate-Lewes-Bonfire-2012-real-success/story-17246459-detail/story.html
Ah I see, Mitt Romney openly criticised the preparation for the Olympics (good thing Google). Wiggins therefore gets to stamp on him to symbolise that Romney (as is quite frequent it seems) was wrong. However, the whole Olympics gets burnt for the usual waste of money argument.
Thanks for the help in solving this one.0 -
Is it not Jaques Rogge and (a rather younger version of) the Queen?
- Olympics, wearing a crown..0 -
They look like they are off to a local satanic orgy for local people.0
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This lot seem to be a bit bloody random, especially since it takes Poirot to work out the reason behind their flaming effigies!0
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TheBigBean wrote:afx237vi wrote:
What's with the blackface dude on the right?
They are dressed as smugglers (that's what the stripey jumpers are about), so a lot of people paint their faces as well. I'm not sure whether it represents camouflage, dirt from crawling through tunnels or gunpowder, but that's what people think smugglers looked like.
Generally, there is quite an array of fancy dress going on, and I recommend the evening if anyone is in the neck of the woods.
Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.
Burning crosses? Check
People wearing hooded robes? Check
Anti-catholic slogans? Check
Burning of catholic effigies? Check
Still sounds like the Klan to me. Just a different target.
A horrible horrible tradition.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.
don't know like 1 to 1.5 million European slaves when took between the 16th and 19th by Barbary pirates. also the word slave comes from slav.
But I get your point
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Timoid. wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.
Burning crosses? Check
People wearing hooded robes? Check
Anti-catholic slogans? Check
Burning of catholic effigies? Check
Still sounds like the Klan to me. Just a different target.
A horrible horrible tradition.
I think you misunderstand the event. It is not anti-catholic - it is anti the Marian persecutions. It is not against the current pope it is against Pope Paul V. It is not about burning crosses as a representation of Catholicism - it is about burning the crosses on which the martyrs were originally burnt.
There is a substantial difference between commemorating the appalling crimes of the past and a modern day witch hunt against someone based on the colour of their skin or their religion. Overall, I find it more offensive that the Catholic church (and most other religions) would like to forget about its past crimes than some small community in Sussex wishes to commemorate an unsavoury event. But as I said, it all depends on your point of view, and if a reminder of the past is offensive, then you would be wise to give it a miss.0 -
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To the People of Lewes:
HAPPY NOW???0 -
TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.
Burning crosses? Check
People wearing hooded robes? Check
Anti-catholic slogans? Check
Burning of catholic effigies? Check
Still sounds like the Klan to me. Just a different target.
A horrible horrible tradition.
I think you misunderstand the event. It is not anti-catholic - it is anti the Marian persecutions. It is not against the current pope it is against Pope Paul V. It is not about burning crosses as a representation of Catholicism - it is about burning the crosses on which the martyrs were originally burnt.
There is a substantial difference between commemorating the appalling crimes of the past and a modern day witch hunt against someone based on the colour of their skin or their religion. Overall, I find it more offensive that the Catholic church (and most other religions) would like to forget about its past crimes than some small community in Sussex wishes to commemorate an unsavoury event. But as I said, it all depends on your point of view, and if a reminder of the past is offensive, then you would be wise to give it a miss.
Not anti-catholic?
Quite.
Wonder why the Bonfire societies were formed in the 1850s? Co-incided with the re-establishment of Catholic bishoprics in 1850.
I suggest you learn your history.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Belittling and offending any religious (cult) group gets my vote.0
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My original question has been answered, so I think I will leave this thread now.0
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Voodooo :evil: :twisted:0
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What's horrible or wrong about criticising Catholics/the pope? They do sort of bring it upon themselves.Timoid. wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:TheBigBean wrote:Timoid. wrote:Hmmm, as a catholic I might just give this one a miss. Might as well ask an African American to go to a Klan rally.
I think it is more like asking a white European / American to attend an anti-slavery commemoration. It all depends on your view.
Burning crosses? Check
People wearing hooded robes? Check
Anti-catholic slogans? Check
Burning of catholic effigies? Check
Still sounds like the Klan to me. Just a different target.
A horrible horrible tradition.
I think you misunderstand the event. It is not anti-catholic - it is anti the Marian persecutions. It is not against the current pope it is against Pope Paul V. It is not about burning crosses as a representation of Catholicism - it is about burning the crosses on which the martyrs were originally burnt.
There is a substantial difference between commemorating the appalling crimes of the past and a modern day witch hunt against someone based on the colour of their skin or their religion. Overall, I find it more offensive that the Catholic church (and most other religions) would like to forget about its past crimes than some small community in Sussex wishes to commemorate an unsavoury event. But as I said, it all depends on your point of view, and if a reminder of the past is offensive, then you would be wise to give it a miss.
Not anti-catholic?
Quite.
Wonder why the Bonfire societies were formed in the 1850s? Co-incided with the re-establishment of Catholic bishoprics in 1850.
I suggest you learn your history.0
