Bike fit, well worth the money

boogi11
boogi11 Posts: 354
edited November 2012 in Road beginners
Hi all, I had my bike fitted professionally at the weekend, and what a difference, he changed my stem and bars, and altered just about everything , and its like riding a different bike, did 70 miles today with no twinges knocks, or aches, could have done another 50

Can't recommend power up bike fitting in Lincoln enough


Just though I would mention it
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  • How much does a bit fit cost?
  • i had one last week with adrian timmis at cadence sport unbelievable the depths sombody can go into for something that seems simple but is actually quite technical. Custom insoles fitted to shoes are day and night different and was riding this afternoon and it dawed on me how much more comfortable the bike was and how much more efficient I was. Mine was £150 and well recommended. I know some people (me included to start with) think £150 and you dont get any tangible/physical thing at the end but its money well spent. I did mine to check I woudl not knacker my knees in 5 years and be unable to walk bit of insurance really.
  • i had one last week with adrian timmis at cadence sport unbelievable the depths sombody can go into for something that seems simple but is actually quite technical. Custom insoles fitted to shoes are day and night different and was riding this afternoon and it dawed on me how much more comfortable the bike was and how much more efficient I was. Mine was £150 and well recommended. I know some people (me included to start with) think £150 and you dont get any tangible/physical thing at the end but its money well spent. I did mine to check I woudl not knacker my knees in 5 years and be unable to walk bit of insurance really.

    At least you explained the reason why you did it and the cost... unlike the OP.

    Guess it all depends on how much cash you have really. Google has done me alright and as a beginner I only had enough for £600 for my 1st road bike.

    And have spent that £150+ on upgrading that.

    In theory it is great - cost effectiveness for a beginner is debateable. If you have over £1000 as your 1st road bike + and extra £500 for extras then good value.

    Otherwise a bit of a waste of money IMO
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    I'd recommend getting one from Cadencesport to anyone, no matter their level.
    It would stop quite a few new riders being put off too.
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  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    Thebigbee wrote:
    In theory it is great - cost effectiveness for a beginner is debateable. If you have over £1000 as your 1st road bike + and extra £500 for extras then good value.

    Otherwise a bit of a waste of money IMO
    Couldn't disagree more. Beginners can benefit hugely from being correctly set up and being advised how to ride it properly rather than spending the first few months / couple of years being hopelessly out of position and wondering how on earth anyone below pro-rider level manages to ride 60 miles in a day and doesn't need three recovery days afterwards. And those of us who have been around a bit can still benefit. The best £80 I ever spent on cycling was on a bike fit, which transformed a humdrum riding experience on a new machine to the best bike bike I've ever owned.
  • BUT is a bike fit something you have to do every time you get a new bike or do you get a set or measurements to set each bike to ????
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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    BUT is a bike fit something you have to do every time you get a new bike or do you get a set or measurements to set each bike to ????

    Get a set of measurements. The key 4 being saddle height, saddle setback, saddle to bar reach, saddle-bar drop. Once you have these you can transpose them on any bike.

    But having a (good) fit goes beyond that, getting the cleats set up right is important so you don't wreck your knees. The moulded inserts are essential for me due to foot issues and I have a leg length descrepancy which is amended with cleat shims...
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  • Wrath Rob
    Wrath Rob Posts: 2,918
    NapoleonD wrote:
    BUT is a bike fit something you have to do every time you get a new bike or do you get a set or measurements to set each bike to ????

    Get a set of measurements. The key 4 being saddle height, saddle setback, saddle to bar reach, saddle-bar drop. Once you have these you can transpose them on any bike.

    But having a (good) fit goes beyond that, getting the cleats set up right is important so you don't wreck your knees. The moulded inserts are essential for me due to foot issues and I have a leg length discrepancy which is amended with cleat shims...
    This. And you can also use them to work out the right frame geometry for you. For example, while I'm average weight and height, the ratio of thighs to calves for my legs puts me in the 95% percentile which means an average frame doesn't fit me very well without some serious stem/seat post/saddle adjustment. If I'd have known this before I bought my last bike I would possibly have bought a different frameset, i.e. one better suited to me.
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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get ride of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.
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  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    Grill wrote:
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get ride of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.


    done :)
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    boogi11 wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get ride of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.


    done :)

    Many thanks. :D
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  • nevman
    nevman Posts: 1,611
    Grill wrote:
    boogi11 wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get rid(e) of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.


    done :)

    Many thanks. :D

    Mind if I correct the spelling?
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  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    CiB wrote:
    Thebigbee wrote:
    In theory it is great - cost effectiveness for a beginner is debateable. If you have over £1000 as your 1st road bike + and extra £500 for extras then good value.

    Otherwise a bit of a waste of money IMO
    Couldn't disagree more. Beginners can benefit hugely from being correctly set up and being advised how to ride it properly rather than spending the first few months / couple of years being hopelessly out of position and wondering how on earth anyone below pro-rider level manages to ride 60 miles in a day and doesn't need three recovery days afterwards. And those of us who have been around a bit can still benefit. The best £80 I ever spent on cycling was on a bike fit, which transformed a humdrum riding experience on a new machine to the best bike bike I've ever owned.


    +1

    i would happily spend the money again if i buy another bike, infact i intend to. the bike fit was £85 and i spent another £65 on a new set of bars, stem and tape. there was no pressure to buy them and the reason for requiring them was explained, i did not go to a shop for the fitting but to a specialist, all he does is bike fittings.

    previously i had followed the guides of the net, and i did have the seat height about spot on, but for and aft was miles out, stem was to long, and to low, and bars were to narrow, cleats were at the wrong angle.

    on a 30 mile ride i would normally ache in the knees and arch of foot. 70 miles yesterday and not a twinge, but also cadence was easier to maintain at a higher speed, drops were far easier to use and stay in, entire position felt relaxed. i asked the guy for a rough idea of frame size required on a new bike, but he explained that its a little more compliocated than that with front fork tube heights differing, i.e. my bianchi is 160mm his trek was 210mm, but top tube was the same!!
  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    nevman wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    boogi11 wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get rid(e) of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.


    done :)

    Many thanks. :D

    Mind if I correct the spelling?


    nope, you crack on.....
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    nevman wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    boogi11 wrote:
    Grill wrote:
    Completely unrelated, but can you please edit the title to get rid(e) of that apostrophe. It's really bugging me.


    done :)

    Many thanks. :D

    Mind if I correct the spelling?

    Spelling error or parapraxis... you decide... :P
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  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    wtf is going on??? who is correcting what, and if your all so clever can anybody do a 15 minute presentation on how to improve workshop efficiency
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    boogi11 wrote:
    wtf is going on??? who is correcting what, and if your all so clever can anybody do a 15 minute presentation on how to improve workshop efficiency

    you're :mrgreen:
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  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    i prefer your if thats ok, i am not convinced the 're is required, is that a welsh spelling :)
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    boogi11 wrote:
    i prefer your if thats ok, i am not convinced the 're is required, is that a welsh spelling :)

    Okay, I hope that you're taking the mick.

    It's "you're" not "your" as it's being used as a contraction of "you are" and not in the possessive.

    I grew up and was schooled in the States. Looks like all this talk of Brits being better educated is just that... :P
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  • nick1972
    nick1972 Posts: 144
    boogi11 wrote:
    CiB wrote:
    Thebigbee wrote:
    In theory it is great - cost effectiveness for a beginner is debateable. If you have over £1000 as your 1st road bike + and extra £500 for extras then good value.

    Otherwise a bit of a waste of money IMO
    Couldn't disagree more. Beginners can benefit hugely from being correctly set up and being advised how to ride it properly rather than spending the first few months / couple of years being hopelessly out of position and wondering how on earth anyone below pro-rider level manages to ride 60 miles in a day and doesn't need three recovery days afterwards. And those of us who have been around a bit can still benefit. The best £80 I ever spent on cycling was on a bike fit, which transformed a humdrum riding experience on a new machine to the best bike bike I've ever owned.


    +1

    i would happily spend the money again if i buy another bike, infact i intend to. the bike fit was £85 and i spent another £65 on a new set of bars, stem and tape. there was no pressure to buy them and the reason for requiring them was explained, i did not go to a shop for the fitting but to a specialist, all he does is bike fittings.

    previously i had followed the guides of the net, and i did have the seat height about spot on, but for and aft was miles out, stem was to long, and to low, and bars were to narrow, cleats were at the wrong angle.

    on a 30 mile ride i would normally ache in the knees and arch of foot. 70 miles yesterday and not a twinge, but also cadence was easier to maintain at a higher speed, drops were far easier to use and stay in, entire position felt relaxed. i asked the guy for a rough idea of frame size required on a new bike, but he explained that its a little more compliocated than that with front fork tube heights differing, i.e. my bianchi is 160mm his trek was 210mm, but top tube was the same!!

    Where did you get your bike fit done?
  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    better educated my arse, school was not good to me, i have got my self into my managerial postion through hard work, my spelling may crap, but i can live with that.

    I have just employed a girl, with a degree from oxford. as a van driver on minimum wage, and on her first trip out she forgot to put the parts on the van. unfortunately in this day and age a good education does not translate into a usefull employee with common sense
  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    Nick1972 wrote:
    boogi11 wrote:
    CiB wrote:
    Thebigbee wrote:
    In theory it is great - cost effectiveness for a beginner is debateable. If you have over £1000 as your 1st road bike + and extra £500 for extras then good value.

    Otherwise a bit of a waste of money IMO
    Couldn't disagree more. Beginners can benefit hugely from being correctly set up and being advised how to ride it properly rather than spending the first few months / couple of years being hopelessly out of position and wondering how on earth anyone below pro-rider level manages to ride 60 miles in a day and doesn't need three recovery days afterwards. And those of us who have been around a bit can still benefit. The best £80 I ever spent on cycling was on a bike fit, which transformed a humdrum riding experience on a new machine to the best bike bike I've ever owned.


    +1

    i would happily spend the money again if i buy another bike, infact i intend to. the bike fit was £85 and i spent another £65 on a new set of bars, stem and tape. there was no pressure to buy them and the reason for requiring them was explained, i did not go to a shop for the fitting but to a specialist, all he does is bike fittings.

    previously i had followed the guides of the net, and i did have the seat height about spot on, but for and aft was miles out, stem was to long, and to low, and bars were to narrow, cleats were at the wrong angle.

    on a 30 mile ride i would normally ache in the knees and arch of foot. 70 miles yesterday and not a twinge, but also cadence was easier to maintain at a higher speed, drops were far easier to use and stay in, entire position felt relaxed. i asked the guy for a rough idea of frame size required on a new bike, but he explained that its a little more compliocated than that with front fork tube heights differing, i.e. my bianchi is 160mm his trek was 210mm, but top tube was the same!!

    Where did you get your bike fit done?


    www.powerupbikefitting.co.uk top bloke
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    boogi11 wrote:
    better educated my ars*, school was not good to me, i have got my self into my managerial postion through hard work, my spelling may crap, but i can live with that.

    I have just employed a girl, with a degree from oxford. as a van driver on minimum wage, and on her first trip out she forgot to put the parts on the van. unfortunately in this day and age a good education does not translate into a usefull employee with common sense

    Enhance your calm (this is an example of correct usage) my friend. No point in getting worked up just because your attempt (as is this) at low-bro humour backfired.

    I agree wholeheartedly that education in no way translates into an instillment of proper work ethic, or intelligence for that matter. In fact, I'd wager that I have less formal schooling than yourself.

    No let's put this whole episode behind us and be friends. Capisce?

    Back on topic, I had my fitting done at Epic Cycles. Highly recommended.
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  • boogi11
    boogi11 Posts: 354
    did you mean no or now :):)

    did you find the bike felt helped you ride better?
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Surely you mean "no" or "know"... ;)

    I ended up buying the Foil during the fit as it was clear my old frame was too big. A week later I did a 12 hour Time Trial with no fit issues and since I bough the bike (2 and a half months ago) I've put over 3,000 miles on it including the Exmoor Beast, a couple of 200k Audax rides and a couple other random centuries. Could I have done this with a poorly fitted bike? Maybe, but it would have been painful and I wouldn't have enjoyed it. Next year I'll be doing the Bryan Chapman, LEL, 12hr TT, and 24hr TT on it. I fully expect those miles to be just as enjoyable as the previous 3,000.
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  • Hi
    Please can anyone recommend somewhere to have a Bike fitting done in the West London / Berkshire area.
    Many thanks
    regards
    Jas
  • dai_t75
    dai_t75 Posts: 189
    Grill wrote:
    Back on topic, I had my fitting done at Epic Cycles. Highly recommended.

    How much did that set you back Grill? Part of me thinks I should get a fit, but another thinks is it worth it when I only paid £300 for the bike :?
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    It cost me nothing as I ended up buying a bike so it was included. I think the actual rate was around 75 for a session (about 2hrs IIRC).
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  • Hi all, sorry to hijack this thread slightly but I just had a look at that "Power Up" website and they look amazing and all at an incredibly good price.

    I live in Glasgow, a fair distance from Lincoln. Is there anything like that place in the Central belt of Scotland? I know Dales Cycles do a fit for £160 but no sure it's as comprehensive? Or technically as good?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated as I would like to get a fit done ASAP!

    Cheers, Michael.
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  • grony
    grony Posts: 75
    Grill wrote:
    boogi11 wrote:
    i prefer your if thats ok, i am not convinced the 're is required, is that a welsh spelling :)

    Okay, I hope that you're taking the mick.

    It's "you're" not "your" as it's being used as a contraction of "you are" and not in the possessive.

    I grew up and was schooled in the States. Looks like all this talk of Brits being better educated is just that... :P


    Bit unfair to write off the British education system on the basis of a few semi-literate posters on an Internet forum.