Big recommendation for Bike-Mall/ Montonbike Thermal Jerseys

Raffles

http://www.bike-mall.com/2012-liquigas-cannondale-black-edition-thermal-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey.html

Bike-Mall and Montonbike are the same Chinese company and ive purchased from both. Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on , but their jerseys offer such amazing value for money. Ive ordered summer short sleeve jerseys in the past in the pinarello , bianchi and castelli designs and they are just terrific value. Where I am really impressed is with the thermal long sleeve jerseys they are now offerring. My thermal long sleeve Bianchi Celeste Green arrived last week and the quality is knockout. When you lift it you can tell by its sheer weight that its gonna keep you warm. The inside is lined with a thermal lining which is not just superbly comfortable to wear, but in cold raw winds keeps you warm as toast. Not a stray stitch to be found and for $36.99 ( £23.80) delivered to your door in about 12-14 days from china, well thats what I call a bargain. The above link shows the Liquigas / Cannondale thermal long sleeve jersey that Im currently waiting on , I do my ordering through the bike-mall website where there is a choice of 83 thermal long sleeve jerseys and its a breeze to use. There will always be naysayers who pour derision on such a notion that a cycling jersey from china can be any good, but from a very satisfied customer who has carried out a host of purchases, never had any complaints or faults and who has saved a fortune in the process ..........I can wholeheartedly say that in my experience ordering quality jerseys, both short sleeve summer and thermal long sleeve is something that those looking to build up a selection of kit should seriously consider and not accept naysayers, who havent even made a purchase for themselves, negativity as being gospel.

MountainMonster

Lol so many shameless plugs recently.....

Raffles

MountainMonster wrote:

Lol so many shameless plugs recently.....

A bargain is a bargain and there are many riders who would baulk at handing over 60 quid for a jersey, if you want to pour scorn ............then its your loss.

Raffles

A plug or endorsement from somebody who has only viewed the website and has never dipped their hand in their pocket is obviously completely pointless and has zero credibility. My posting this thread is done with 1st hand experience of using this company many times and there has never been any issue of any kind whatsoever.

If some riders wince at the prospect of shelling out 60 quid for a single jersey and would like to obtain better value for money , then using bike-mall offers a safe and viable alternative. There will be those who dont agree with me , but thats fine and they are of course entitled to their opinion.

Ill be out on saturday morning in the cold wind wearing my Bianchi Thermal Long Sleeve jerseywith Funkier Gilet and be warm as toast and enjoying a certain satisfaction in the knowledge that thermal jersey cost me just £23.80 delivered..........nice

nolight

Actually my main issue with Chinese Monton-brand jersey is not the quality, but the fact that they have a clothing company logo (in your case Sugoi) on the jersey which is obviously not the company that makes this jersey. I would not want to wear a jersey that has Sugoi logo that is not made by Sugoi because I feel like I am lying to myself and I also would not want people to think that I am wearing a Sugoi brand jersey when I am not. If I wear a jersey that has Sugoi brand on it, I would want to be getting the genuine Sugoi jersey just to be true to myself.

I have no problem with wearing brandless stuff or non-famous brands but then I want this status to be reflected on the jersey so that people know that. So I am ok if these Chinese jerseys are to strip out that Sugoi/Castelli/Pearl Izumi logo on the jersey or replace it with something that reflects its quality or true brand (eg Baiky). Ideally these Chinese manufacturers should just make some original designs of their own instead of copying pro-team designs. If they do that I may actually start buying them if the quality is up to par.

diy

So... is the long and the short of it that these are basically knock offs? I'm happy with cheap gear, but I wouldn't want the buy knock offs. You can get decentish cycling jerseys from Lidl and Aldi for under a 10er.

jameses

Monton do have their own range of designs. I'm not a massive fan of the whole team kit thing (assuming you don't ride for that team), but their 'own-brand' clothing is good quality (much better than the Lidl/Aldi gear I've tried) and amazing value.

Raffles

Ive zero interest in team kit , the products I bought are pinarello, castelli, bianchi and cannondale and I think they are just great, they do exactly what it says on the tin and for a steal of price, its 100% win as far as I can see.

charlie_potatoes

How does the sizing compare to other suppliers Raffles?

Raffles

Charlie Potatoes wrote:

How does the sizing compare to other suppliers Raffles?

read the size guide carefully as sizing can differ from what we are used to in the uk. im 42 inches in the chest and thats a size XL for bike-mall, some worry about about buying direct from china , but its a total no brainer as their postal system is better than ours , you get a tracking number , stuff arrives in uk in just under 2 weeks and the garments will save you a fortune and do their job.

charlie_potatoes

Raffles wrote:

Charlie Potatoes wrote:

How does the sizing compare to other suppliers Raffles?

read the size guide carefully as sizing can differ from what we are used to in the uk. im 42 inches in the chest and thats a size XL for bike-mall, some worry about about buying direct from china , but its a total no brainer as their postal system is better than ours , you get a tracking number , stuff arrives in uk in just under 2 weeks and the garments will save you a fortune and do their job.

Thanks

mallorcajeff

you sure they are the same company as the prices are different?
I wasnt impressed with the monton stuff do you think this stuff is different?

nolight

JamesEs wrote:

Monton do have their own range of designs. I'm not a massive fan of the whole team kit thing (assuming you don't ride for that team), but their 'own-brand' clothing is good quality (much better than the Lidl/Aldi gear I've tried) and amazing value.

Do you have example? The ones in the website are all team clothing.

Raffles wrote:

Ive zero interest in team kit , the products I bought are pinarello, castelli, bianchi and cannondale and I think they are just great, they do exactly what it says on the tin and for a steal of price, its 100% win as far as I can see.

Yes but still those happen to be team clothing as well. Those brands sponsor the team so they appear in the team jersey.

Raffles

nolight wrote:

JamesEs wrote:

Monton do have their own range of designs. I'm not a massive fan of the whole team kit thing (assuming you don't ride for that team), but their 'own-brand' clothing is good quality (much better than the Lidl/Aldi gear I've tried) and amazing value.

Do you have example? The ones in the website are all team clothing.

Raffles wrote:

Ive zero interest in team kit , the products I bought are pinarello, castelli, bianchi and cannondale and I think they are just great, they do exactly what it says on the tin and for a steal of price, its 100% win as far as I can see.

Yes but still those happen to be team clothing as well. Those brands sponsor the team so they appear in the team jersey.

to be honest with you, im not going to lose any sleep over that, product is good and thats all i care about

jameses

nolight wrote:

JamesEs wrote:

Monton do have their own range of designs. I'm not a massive fan of the whole team kit thing (assuming you don't ride for that team), but their 'own-brand' clothing is good quality (much better than the Lidl/Aldi gear I've tried) and amazing value.

Do you have example? The ones in the website are all team clothing.

http://www.cycling-monton.com/short-bib ... 42212.html

alihisgreat

Raffles wrote:

http://www.bike-mall.com/2012-liquigas-cannondale-black-edition-thermal-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey.html

Bike-Mall and Montonbike are the same Chinese company and ive purchased from both. Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on , but their jerseys offer such amazing value for money. Ive ordered summer short sleeve jerseys in the past in the pinarello , bianchi and castelli designs and they are just terrific value. Where I am really impressed is with the thermal long sleeve jerseys they are now offerring. My thermal long sleeve Bianchi Celeste Green arrived last week and the quality is knockout. When you lift it you can tell by its sheer weight that its gonna keep you warm. The inside is lined with a thermal lining which is not just superbly comfortable to wear, but in cold raw winds keeps you warm as toast. Not a stray stitch to be found and for $36.99 ( £23.80) delivered to your door in about 12-14 days from china, well thats what I call a bargain. The above link shows the Liquigas / Cannondale thermal long sleeve jersey that Im currently waiting on , I do my ordering through the bike-mall website where there is a choice of 83 thermal long sleeve jerseys and its a breeze to use. There will always be naysayers who pour derision on such a notion that a cycling jersey from china can be any good, but from a very satisfied customer who has carried out a host of purchases, never had any complaints or faults and who has saved a fortune in the process ..........I can wholeheartedly say that in my experience ordering quality jerseys, both short sleeve summer and thermal long sleeve is something that those looking to build up a selection of kit should seriously consider and not accept naysayers, who havent even made a purchase for themselves, negativity as being gospel.

Which jerseys are you comparing the quality of the chinese stuff to?

Raffles

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

http://www.bike-mall.com/2012-liquigas-cannondale-black-edition-thermal-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey.html

Bike-Mall and Montonbike are the same Chinese company and ive purchased from both. Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on , but their jerseys offer such amazing value for money. Ive ordered summer short sleeve jerseys in the past in the pinarello , bianchi and castelli designs and they are just terrific value. Where I am really impressed is with the thermal long sleeve jerseys they are now offerring. My thermal long sleeve Bianchi Celeste Green arrived last week and the quality is knockout. When you lift it you can tell by its sheer weight that its gonna keep you warm. The inside is lined with a thermal lining which is not just superbly comfortable to wear, but in cold raw winds keeps you warm as toast. Not a stray stitch to be found and for $36.99 ( £23.80) delivered to your door in about 12-14 days from china, well thats what I call a bargain. The above link shows the Liquigas / Cannondale thermal long sleeve jersey that Im currently waiting on , I do my ordering through the bike-mall website where there is a choice of 83 thermal long sleeve jerseys and its a breeze to use. There will always be naysayers who pour derision on such a notion that a cycling jersey from china can be any good, but from a very satisfied customer who has carried out a host of purchases, never had any complaints or faults and who has saved a fortune in the process ..........I can wholeheartedly say that in my experience ordering quality jerseys, both short sleeve summer and thermal long sleeve is something that those looking to build up a selection of kit should seriously consider and not accept naysayers, who havent even made a purchase for themselves, negativity as being gospel.

Which jerseys are you comparing the quality of the chinese stuff to?

I never mentioned anything about comparing jersey A with jersey B Ali. Personally ( and you are entitled to disagree ) I find handing over 60 quid for a cycling jersey to be taking the urine. the bianchi thermal ive got is (imo) great quality and when I wore it in the brass monkey weather today...............I was just fine , and all for a paltry £23.80 delivered. as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what I got for £23.80 puts a very satisfied grin of satisfaction on my face and I deem that £23.80 to be money very well spent indeed............and isnt that all that matters.

alihisgreat

Raffles wrote:

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

http://www.bike-mall.com/2012-liquigas-cannondale-black-edition-thermal-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey.html

Bike-Mall and Montonbike are the same Chinese company and ive purchased from both. Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on , but their jerseys offer such amazing value for money. Ive ordered summer short sleeve jerseys in the past in the pinarello , bianchi and castelli designs and they are just terrific value. Where I am really impressed is with the thermal long sleeve jerseys they are now offerring. My thermal long sleeve Bianchi Celeste Green arrived last week and the quality is knockout. When you lift it you can tell by its sheer weight that its gonna keep you warm. The inside is lined with a thermal lining which is not just superbly comfortable to wear, but in cold raw winds keeps you warm as toast. Not a stray stitch to be found and for $36.99 ( £23.80) delivered to your door in about 12-14 days from china, well thats what I call a bargain. The above link shows the Liquigas / Cannondale thermal long sleeve jersey that Im currently waiting on , I do my ordering through the bike-mall website where there is a choice of 83 thermal long sleeve jerseys and its a breeze to use. There will always be naysayers who pour derision on such a notion that a cycling jersey from china can be any good, but from a very satisfied customer who has carried out a host of purchases, never had any complaints or faults and who has saved a fortune in the process ..........I can wholeheartedly say that in my experience ordering quality jerseys, both short sleeve summer and thermal long sleeve is something that those looking to build up a selection of kit should seriously consider and not accept naysayers, who havent even made a purchase for themselves, negativity as being gospel.

Which jerseys are you comparing the quality of the chinese stuff to?

I never mentioned anything about comparing jersey A with jersey B Ali. Personally ( and you are entitled to disagree ) I find handing over 60 quid for a cycling jersey to be taking the urine. the bianchi thermal ive got is (imo) great quality and when I wore it in the brass monkey weather today...............I was just fine , and all for a paltry £23.80 delivered. as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what I got for £23.80 puts a very satisfied grin of satisfaction on my face and I deem that £23.80 to be money very well spent indeed............and isnt that all that matters.

So what you're saying is that you've just decided that this jersey has a set of characteristics which constitute a good jersey... when it sounds like you've never experienced a good jersey and therefore have nothing to base your judgement on?


Not only are you saying that fakes are better... but you're saying fakes are better without having tried the real thing

Raffles

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

http://www.bike-mall.com/2012-liquigas-cannondale-black-edition-thermal-long-sleeve-cycling-jersey.html

Bike-Mall and Montonbike are the same Chinese company and ive purchased from both. Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on , but their jerseys offer such amazing value for money. Ive ordered summer short sleeve jerseys in the past in the pinarello , bianchi and castelli designs and they are just terrific value. Where I am really impressed is with the thermal long sleeve jerseys they are now offerring. My thermal long sleeve Bianchi Celeste Green arrived last week and the quality is knockout. When you lift it you can tell by its sheer weight that its gonna keep you warm. The inside is lined with a thermal lining which is not just superbly comfortable to wear, but in cold raw winds keeps you warm as toast. Not a stray stitch to be found and for $36.99 ( £23.80) delivered to your door in about 12-14 days from china, well thats what I call a bargain. The above link shows the Liquigas / Cannondale thermal long sleeve jersey that Im currently waiting on , I do my ordering through the bike-mall website where there is a choice of 83 thermal long sleeve jerseys and its a breeze to use. There will always be naysayers who pour derision on such a notion that a cycling jersey from china can be any good, but from a very satisfied customer who has carried out a host of purchases, never had any complaints or faults and who has saved a fortune in the process ..........I can wholeheartedly say that in my experience ordering quality jerseys, both short sleeve summer and thermal long sleeve is something that those looking to build up a selection of kit should seriously consider and not accept naysayers, who havent even made a purchase for themselves, negativity as being gospel.

Which jerseys are you comparing the quality of the chinese stuff to?

I never mentioned anything about comparing jersey A with jersey B Ali. Personally ( and you are entitled to disagree ) I find handing over 60 quid for a cycling jersey to be taking the urine. the bianchi thermal ive got is (imo) great quality and when I wore it in the brass monkey weather today...............I was just fine , and all for a paltry £23.80 delivered. as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, what I got for £23.80 puts a very satisfied grin of satisfaction on my face and I deem that £23.80 to be money very well spent indeed............and isnt that all that matters.

So what you're saying is that you've just decided that this jersey has a set of characteristics which constitute a good jersey... when it sounds like you've never experienced a good jersey and therefore have nothing to base your judgement on?


Not only are you saying that fakes are better... but you're saying fakes are better without having tried the real thing

Not at all, im say ing that Im not prepared to have my eye wiped if I hand over 60+quid for a product that cost a fraction of that to make, Im more than happy with what I received for £23.80 and so is my credit card

nolight

JamesEs wrote:

nolight wrote:

JamesEs wrote:

Monton do have their own range of designs. I'm not a massive fan of the whole team kit thing (assuming you don't ride for that team), but their 'own-brand' clothing is good quality (much better than the Lidl/Aldi gear I've tried) and amazing value.

Do you have example? The ones in the website are all team clothing.

http://www.cycling-monton.com/short-bib ... 42212.html

Well, when they say 2011 XXXX, 2012 XXXX, that is team jersey of that year isn't it? Which means they take an official design (by Castelli, Canari or whoever) and print it.

What I mean by own design would be something like this. Something created by the company and no one else.
http://www.bikejerseys.com/bebije.html
http://www.sharethedamnroad.com/
http://www.primalwear.com/c-7-primal-or ... rseys.aspx

kleinstroker

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

jameses

nolight wrote:

Well, when they say 2011 XXXX, 2012 XXXX, that is team jersey of that year isn't it? Which means they take an official design (by Castelli, Canari or whoever) and print it.

What I mean by own design would be something like this. Something created by the company and no one else.
http://www.bikejerseys.com/bebije.html
http://www.sharethedamnroad.com/
http://www.primalwear.com/c-7-primal-or ... rseys.aspx

No, the jerseys in the link are not team jerseys. They are branded Monton, and (AFAIK) are not copied designs. The year is simply the year they started selling that design, and probably only added so that the descriptions are consistant throughout the site.

Raffles

kleinstroker wrote:

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

absolutely right, if i was gullible enough to hand over the money that assos and rapha want (and im not btw) then yes id want the branded item.assos arent made in switzerland anymore, production was switched to china, i see assos as THE biggest rip-off merchants in cycling wear and accessories with their prices that are at least twice what the rest of the competition charge........old saying " a fool and their money are easily parted"

even rapha, undoubtedly nice gear, but not worth anything like the asking price. some people and its all about being seen to be wearing a brand, bit like shelling out for oakleys when bolle contours do the same job for a tenner. still, its just me rambling, if some decide to buy from bike-mall then they will have decent gear and arent paying out stupid money for garments that cost a pittance to make.

alihisgreat

Raffles wrote:

kleinstroker wrote:

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

absolutely right, if i was gullible enough to hand over the money that assos and rapha want (and im not btw) then yes id want the branded item.assos arent made in switzerland anymore, production was switched to china, i see assos as THE biggest rip-off merchants in cycling wear and accessories with their prices that are at least twice what the rest of the competition charge........old saying " a fool and their money are easily parted"

even rapha, undoubtedly nice gear, but not worth anything like the asking price. some people and its all about being seen to be wearing a brand, bit like shelling out for oakleys when bolle contours do the same job for a tenner. still, its just me rambling, if some decide to buy from bike-mall then they will have decent gear and arent paying out stupid money for garments that cost a pittance to make.

I'm a massive fool for spending £1k on my bike.

Tescos have a kids one on offer for £100 :roll:

Raffles

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

kleinstroker wrote:

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

absolutely right, if i was gullible enough to hand over the money that assos and rapha want (and im not btw) then yes id want the branded item.assos arent made in switzerland anymore, production was switched to china, i see assos as THE biggest rip-off merchants in cycling wear and accessories with their prices that are at least twice what the rest of the competition charge........old saying " a fool and their money are easily parted"

even rapha, undoubtedly nice gear, but not worth anything like the asking price. some people and its all about being seen to be wearing a brand, bit like shelling out for oakleys when bolle contours do the same job for a tenner. still, its just me rambling, if some decide to buy from bike-mall then they will have decent gear and arent paying out stupid money for garments that cost a pittance to make.

I'm a massive fool for spending £1k on my bike.

Tescos have a kids one on offer for £100 :roll:

especially when you could have lifted one out of a skip parked at somebodys house, if i were you id take that bike back and go lookin for a skip......................save you a fortune Ali

alihisgreat

Raffles wrote:

ALIHISGREAT wrote:

Raffles wrote:

kleinstroker wrote:

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

absolutely right, if i was gullible enough to hand over the money that assos and rapha want (and im not btw) then yes id want the branded item.assos arent made in switzerland anymore, production was switched to china, i see assos as THE biggest rip-off merchants in cycling wear and accessories with their prices that are at least twice what the rest of the competition charge........old saying " a fool and their money are easily parted"

even rapha, undoubtedly nice gear, but not worth anything like the asking price. some people and its all about being seen to be wearing a brand, bit like shelling out for oakleys when bolle contours do the same job for a tenner. still, its just me rambling, if some decide to buy from bike-mall then they will have decent gear and arent paying out stupid money for garments that cost a pittance to make.

I'm a massive fool for spending £1k on my bike.

Tescos have a kids one on offer for £100 :roll:

especially when you could have lifted one out of a skip parked at somebodys house, if i were you id take that bike back and go lookin for a skip......................save you a fortune Ali

I got my clothes out of a skip.. a bin bag gilet and this jersey that says 'monton' on the label.

mallorcajeff

Not to get involved in the two and fro that seems to have developed, but I understand your happy to buy their products and are saying they do their job etc for the money, and you say you wont part with good money for what is in your eyes "the same thing" In your fist post you said "Their bib shorts do the job and are ok for knocking about on" Their bib shorts may "look" like others but even by your own admission say they are not as good as (purely for comparison example say castelli or the like) I am interested in what bib shorts you buy then? I take it by saying they are ok for knocking about on you must wear soemthing different for your "proper rides" do you feel you are being ripped off when buying them as they clearly do a better job than the cheap stuff that is "ok for knocking about on" Peronally I find a big difference between the cheap stuff and the stuff I wear. I like Nalini/Moa and Inverse (top spanish make) not much of it in the UK but if you some across any the fit and quality is fantastic. Not cheap but i find you get what you pay for in this world. Longevity being important. I dont buy the chinese stuff but did buy a pair of htc gloves as you cant get them new anymore and they failed after 5 wears!

nolight

kleinstroker wrote:

nolight.. Isn't it likely, that everyone of your original design cycling tops were printed in the same factory as those from Monton, so what does it matter? It doesn't unless you're spending big bucks on things lie Assos or Rapha.

It matters because then I know I am wearing original house-brand, not a copy.
Whereas if I wear a team jersey that is tied to a premium brand, then the recipe for making the clothes come from the brand, and therefore the logo and the official design printed on the jersey means something about that recipe, and if that logo and official design is there and it is not from that brand, it is lying about that recipe and quality.

For the same reason that I would not want to be buying hypothetical Starbarks coffee, even if it has quite similar logo as Starbucks and both are made in China. Or hypothetical Green Apple brand smartphone, quite similar looking to Apple smartphone, both made in China.

Strith

FWIW I've had a few summer jerseys and bibs, and theyre pretty good vfm. I would agree with the op in that the jerseys are as good as anything I have from pearl izumi/gore. Rapha do use nicer materials imo. The bibs are not as good for me, as they're not the best fit for my body type, but the pads are fine.

I wanted to ask Raffles. How strechy are the thermal tops, and likewise do you know what the thermal tights are like by any chance?

Raffles

whereas summer short sleeve jerseys are light , the thermal long sleeve types are heavier and more substantial. the fabric has a smooth silky feel to it and its inner lining is like a soft fleece type feel. if you blindfolded somebody and put the 60+ quid jersey alongside the bike-mall one, i guarantee you they couldnt tell the difference. regarding their tights, i dont know as its only the jerseys im interested in and im going to buy some thermal roubaix tights from LBS

nolight

What happens when you take off the blindfold matters too :P . Like I say, I have no problem buying some generic original design if Monton has them.