Team sky..... Thoughts?

Crispyapp

So by now you must all of heard about brailsfords 0% doping contract... I was wondering now Yates has decided to leave do you think he's taken it too far? I totally understand he wants to run a clean ship, however to punish people for something they may of done in the past seems madness to me.....

I'm sure you have your comments agree or disagree what are they?

LegendLust

I think Brailsford needs to be doing this - otherwise suspicions maybe raised about Sky's performance at this years Tour and continue if they carry on doing well.

And I think it needs to be done - wipe the board clean and start again. 2013 becomes 1LA - 1 year after Armstrong

stickman

Yes, do it properly and fully.

Crispyapp

LegendLust wrote:

I think Brailsford needs to be doing this - otherwise suspicions maybe raised about Sky's performance at this years Tour and continue if they carry on doing well.

And I think it needs to be done - wipe the board clean and start again. 2013 becomes 1LA - 1 year after Armstrong

I totally agree it needs to be done, what I'm not convinced about is punishing people for their past. The sport has to move in a new direction but my thoughts are sign the contract and start this from now. Not from potentially what you may may not of done 10 yrs ago.

stickman

If I owned a team I would want absolute zero drug involvement past, present future. And anyone caught generally should get a life ban. The Vuelta was ruined by the disgusting sight of Contador riding after a few months ban for doping.

alihisgreat

LegendLust wrote:

I think Brailsford needs to be doing this - otherwise suspicions maybe raised about Sky's performance at this years Tour and continue if they carry on doing well.

And I think it needs to be done - wipe the board clean and start again. 2013 becomes 1LA - 1 year after Armstrong

I think its got quite a lot to do with Brailsford's link to British cycling... any kind of doping speculation is going to not only affect Sky.. but British cycling too.

..and he can't risk that.

Ber Nard

I'm not sure that it's really punishing anybody unless they claim to be clean and are later found out. My understanding is that anyone who puts their hand up is politely asked to leave and gets quite a pay-off. That doesn't apply to people who have lied.

It's not like a rider who admits to a doping past becomes unemployable, they just don't fit in with the ethics of Team Sky. Other teams will have them.

Dave Brailsford's stance is noble, but I think it's going to take some time before it becomes foolproof.

Rob

LegendLust

Crispyapp wrote:

LegendLust wrote:

I think Brailsford needs to be doing this - otherwise suspicions maybe raised about Sky's performance at this years Tour and continue if they carry on doing well.

And I think it needs to be done - wipe the board clean and start again. 2013 becomes 1LA - 1 year after Armstrong

I totally agree it needs to be done, what I'm not convinced about is punishing people for their past. The sport has to move in a new direction but my thoughts are sign the contract and start this from now. Not from potentially what you may may not of done 10 yrs ago.

Yates hasn't been punished though. His retirement is of his own choice. He's gone now to save Sky any embarrassment in the future if/when Yate's is found out to have been a doper.

Mikey23

Team sky have had a zero drugs policy right from the outset. These guys have presumably signed contracts on that basis and have therefore lied, so I would imagine that they are now in breach of those contracts. Perhaps they are fortunate to get a payoff...

Xcelerator

I think it is a brave stance that Brailsford is taking, but one for which he should be admired. The UCI could learn a thing or two....

ShutUpLegs

Sky have ruined football in this country, give it time in anything else they are involved in

Rushmore

I think every team should have this policy..

this sport should be a clean sport... If it means we lose some good riders because of doping, so be it...

It should NOT be tolerated past, present or future...

nunowoolmez

I doubt very much Brailsford WANTED the departures, as they were clearly highly valued members of a quality run team. However, i think he needed to be SEEN to be making this stance, to cover his own back & protect riders like Wiggo & Froome dog from any extra media scrutiny & rumour. A clever move, but a ruthless one.

vfast1

Crispyapp wrote:

I totally agree it needs to be done, what I'm not convinced about is punishing people for their past. The sport has to move in a new direction but my thoughts are sign the contract and start this from now. Not from potentially what you may may not of done 10 yrs ago.

What Armstong did was in the past so what do you say to that?

Crispyapp

vfast1 wrote:

Crispyapp wrote:

I totally agree it needs to be done, what I'm not convinced about is punishing people for their past. The sport has to move in a new direction but my thoughts are sign the contract and start this from now. Not from potentially what you may may not of done 10 yrs ago.

What Armstong did was in the past so what do you say to that?

You know what, ill eat my hat, there I said it...... Never looked at it that way. Hate Armstrong and everything associated to live strong. When you look at it this way I'd say your right. :oops: