"The World According To Lance Armstrong" documentary

stickman

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/ ... 608613.htm a documentary on the current mess.

Ride hard

Thanks for sharing.

I'm no expert, but I have to say Mr EPO's body language when listening to some questions says a thousand words.

getprg

Lance Armstrong.............Jimmy Saville...............read this and perhaps it explains a little more

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

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I just watched it and I can see why he's got away with it for so long.. he's a really good liar. I know that I'd have massive sweat patches if I was being questioned like that for 3+ hours! The evidence, testimonials, bugged phone calls etc do paint a very convincing picture, however.

peat

getprg wrote:

Lance Armstrong.............Jimmy Saville...............read this and perhaps it explains a little more

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

Fascinating read/watch. Thanks.

CYCLESPORT1

Watched some of it, but if he took all of the drugs that the doctor supposingly was told about when he was in hospital, why have no other pro cyclist got cancer from it ?

chrisaonabike

CYCLESPORT1 wrote:

Watched some of it, but if he took all of the drugs that the doctor supposingly was told about when he was in hospital, why have no other pro cyclist got cancer from it ?

It's not possible to be sure that the drugs caused it in LA's case.

Even if it did, there's no reason to assume that the same drugs would cause cancer in anyone else. He might just have been very unlucky.

Just as we know that smoking causes lung cancer, not everyone that smokes gets lung cancer, and for many, possibly most, cancers, it's not possible to say what actually triggered the initial cell malfunction.

If it's true that not a single pro cyclist has had the same or a similar cancer to LA's, then it's likely that the drugs didn't cause it in his case either.

From a very cursory search, it appears that there's no evidence linking those drugs to testicular cancer. I don't know if there've been any more recent studies since that article was written.

stickman

A lot of young riders have died from EPO, before ever becoming big names.

bompington

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

CYCLESPORT1 wrote:

Watched some of it, but if he took all of the drugs that the doctor supposingly was told about when he was in hospital, why have no other pro cyclist got cancer from it ?

It's not possible to be sure that the drugs caused it in LA's case.

Even if it did, there's no reason to assume that the same drugs would cause cancer in anyone else. He might just have been very unlucky.

Just as we know that smoking causes lung cancer, not everyone that smokes gets lung cancer, and for many, possibly most, cancers, it's not possible to say what actually triggered the initial cell malfunction.

If it's true that not a single pro cyclist has had the same or a similar cancer to LA's, then it's likely that the drugs didn't cause it in his case either.

From a very cursory search, it appears that there's no evidence linking those drugs to testicular cancer. I don't know if there've been any more recent studies since that article was written.

This. As I've posted before in other threads, I think most of the talk about LA's doping causing his own cancer is down to a strong desire on the part of a lot of people to be able to blame his cancer on himself, a kind of hater's "be a cheat and get cancer" mirror image of the Livestrong "be a hero and defeat cancer" philosophy. Myself, I'm fairly sure it's one thing you can't blame him for, even if the haterz' hate is mostly his fault.

peat

ChrisAOnABike wrote:

Just as we know that smoking causes lung cancer, not everyone that smokes gets lung cancer, and for many, possibly most, cancers, it's not possible to say what actually triggered the initial cell malfunction.

There was an interesting peice in the More4/Dawkins program the other night about the human genome and how that literally sets 'If this configuration of person smokes, they will get cancer' etc. So it is possible that there was a reaction on some level, or the dude just got cancer.

.....or summink.