The UCI (a different perspective)

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited October 2012 in Pro race
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Nice article, but the UCI did (allegedly) cover it up.

    Perhaps not the UCI should be folded, but heads should roll at the UCI.....
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Good article yes. I would like to see more Africans in the European scene. it has been many years since they started to have funding of sorts and more opportunities and exposure. Not sure why there is only one at the moment that came clearly out of that scene - Tekle (who so far is underwhelming but I am still hoping in time he can reach great things - his 'numbers' are supposed to be superb).

    As an aside, they have made a film about the Rwandan cyclists: http://vimeo.com/15464226
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  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    good blog. helping us see the work done at ground level.

    i don't agree that the UCI are blameless re: doping at the highest level though.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,599
    Also if the sponsors pull out at the top level, where with the UCI funding for projects such as this come from? The dope makers?
    It's very naive to think that the UCIs 'failings' won't have a knock on effect further down the tree.
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    edited October 2012
    How is that a good blog?

    Starts of by telling how ignorant people are for blaiming UCI in the Lance-gate but does very little to argue why people are ignorant and wrong. All I read was "we get so and so much money and support from UCI and we are grateful for that". Of course you are. But you would get that support without the corrupt as well.

    It even ends off by stating a lie. "UCI did not cover anything up".
  • Rwanda Shield - DEPLOY!
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Rwanda Shield - DEPLOY!

    Exactly.
  • While the blog gives some useful perspective on the scope and work of the UCI and those that work within it, it misses a central issue with regard to doping at the elite level: it is an issue of governance in relation to this single aspect. It is entirely possible to be doing some stuff well and other stuff really, really badly. To say that because the UCI supports African cycling it couldn't possibly be held to account for a catastrophic failures elsewhere is taking a wilfully one-eyed view.

    The UCI can and should manage this whole episode to improve the sport and to begin to restore trust and the image of the sport, of itself, of the atheletes. It will be a further failure to igonore this opportunity.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    I don't understand why they have to ruin the European Cycling season and call it a World Tour.
    It has taken over 100 years for the European season to develop.

    This Fat Paddy Idiot comes along and ruins it overnight.
    Let him develop his other Continental Tours which I would have no problem with.
    It is one thing to have Little Indoor Tracks where the poor darlings keep warm and away from the wind and can perform anywhere in the world at any time.

    Let the riders and sponsors decide and if they have enough money for their races that could clash, then so be it.
    The Greed of this UCI is going to completely bring the European season to an end eventually.
    The European riders would still go to warmer climates for training before their own season starts.
    The UCI cannot organise a cycle race but they want to reap the profits (if any) for themselves.

    Formula 1 allocates 1 race per country. !
    Football play in their own Leagues. Then the World Cup is played by countries.

    The present cycle race system of the attempted year round season is only going to encourage "Drugs" .
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    deejay wrote:
    I don't understand why they have to ruin the European Cycling season and call it a World Tour.
    It has taken over 100 years for the European season to develop.

    This Fat Paddy Idiot comes along and ruins it overnight.
    Let him develop his other Continental Tours which I would have no problem with.
    It is one thing to have Little Indoor Tracks where the poor darlings keep warm and away from the wind and can perform anywhere in the world at any time.

    Let the riders and sponsors decide and if they have enough money for their races that could clash, then so be it.
    The Greed of this UCI is going to completely bring the European season to an end eventually.
    The European riders would still go to warmer climates for training before their own season starts.
    The UCI cannot organise a cycle race but they want to reap the profits (if any) for themselves.

    Formula 1 allocates 1 race per country. !
    Football play in their own Leagues. Then the World Cup is played by countries.

    The present cycle race system of the attempted year round season is only going to encourage "Drugs" .

    I always look forward to your casual racism. The fact that he's Irish is nothing to do with it.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784

    Iain acting as UCI's new forum smokescreen

    Iain <3 McQuaid.

    Heh. Not quite. I don't hate him as much as some others though.

    I thought the piece was interesting because it shows the UCI have a wider remit, and there are a lot of people in the organisation doing good things.

    Despite everything in the USADA report, there isn't a big thing saying the governing body are corrupt.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    iainf72 wrote:

    Iain acting as UCI's new forum smokescreen

    Iain <3 McQuaid.

    Heh. Not quite. I don't hate him as much as some others though.

    I thought the piece was interesting because it shows the UCI have a wider remit, and there are a lot of people in the organisation doing good things.

    Despite everything in the USADA report, there isn't a big thing saying the governing body are corrupt.

    And that would probably be bang on the money - only issue is McQuaid and Hein at the top of the chain are as dirty as they come, no matter how professional and well-intentioned the rest of the staffers and company is. Also, I'm sure that the UCI do happen to do wonderful things elsewhere within the sport, but that alone cannot excuse actions which have terrorised it for 20 years.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I don't think Pat is as dodgy as everyone thinks he is.

    Hein is completely dodgy. It would be interesting to see how McQuaid would operate without him pulling the strings.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Brakeless
    Brakeless Posts: 865
    iainf72 wrote:
    I don't think Pat is as dodgy as everyone thinks he is.

    Hein is completely dodgy. It would be interesting to see how McQuaid would operate without him pulling the strings.

    Mcquaid has been a c*nt ever since he ignored a worldwide sporting ban on competeing in South Africa in the seventies.

    The UCI will continue to do the very good ground level work such as the stuff in Rwanda with new leadership.

    That blog is rubbish 'Please make all this drugs stuff go away so things can carry on as they are'
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Brakeless wrote:

    Mcquaid has been a c*nt ever since he ignored a worldwide sporting ban on competeing in South Africa in the seventies.

    I take it that applies to Sean Kelly too?

    And the Giro as well? I mean, they let a white South African compete in the Giro in the 70's, which must've violated some kind of ruling.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    I think the blog raises a valid point, the UCI isn't the corrupt wholly evil organisation that certain twitter people and IFP make it out to be.

    Of course, I disagree with what the author is basically saying about sweeping it under the carpet. But it's good to see some evidence of the UCI doing good work.
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  • If I were a cynic, perish the thought, that 'different perspective' would be equivalent to the LA 'He Conquered Cancer', JS 'He does a lot for Charity'. Yes, the charities benefit but so do the 'benefactors'. Good works done far away and at little expense, provide a fragrant diversion from the real dirty works.
    'fool'
  • oneof1982
    oneof1982 Posts: 703
    iainf72 wrote:

    I take it that applies to Sean Kelly too?

    And the Giro as well? I mean, they let a white South African compete in the Giro in the 70's, which must've violated some kind of ruling.

    Yes.
  • oneof1982
    oneof1982 Posts: 703
    And the blog is a load of tosh. Of course the ruling body should be doing development work. Doesn't make up for the rest of the cr@p.