Should i take food with me?

haf1zur
haf1zur Posts: 124
edited October 2012 in Road beginners
Ok guys, tomorrow the plan is to do a 50 miler, first time doing such a distance, did a couple of 25 milers a couple of weeks ago and felt that i had a lot more to give

So far, only been taking water and hardly finish a 1/4 of the 750ml bottle i have

Would it be wise to take some bars and possibly an energy drink with me? going to head off straight after breakfast in the morning, hope to finish in 3 hours or so

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  • edhornby
    edhornby Posts: 1,741
    I would simply because you can - don't worry about energy drinks per se, just water or water with some fruit juice in, take a sandwich or

    simply because if you go past the time you normally eat lunch you'd be pretty empty towards the end of the ride, so eating something during the ride will give your stomach something to draw on if it needs it

    most importantly, drink lots of fluids tonight and in the morning before you go
    "I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, how good is that"
    --Jens Voight
  • Make sure you're hydrated before you head out. Drink every 15 mins or so whilst you're out. Porridge for breakfast. Banana, energy bar, or malt loaf before the tail end of your ride. That should keep you right.

    Personally I always take a banana on anything over ten miles. Some days you need it more than others, and it's there for when that time comes.
  • dashik
    dashik Posts: 156
    Remember to take a leak before you leave the house ;) It's indecent exposure if your not in the Tour of Britain.....

    Basically what the other lad said, plenty of fluids on the run and a sandwich or bit of malt loaf etc just in case :D If you dont eat it on the run you can always feed the ducks when you get home :D

    Better to take it and not need it than need it and not have......


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  • Dashik wrote:
    Damn! ninja'd

    :wink:
  • Dashik wrote:
    Remember to take a leak before you leave the house ;) It's indecent exposure if your not in the Tour of Britain.....

    Basically what the other lad said, plenty of fluids on the run and a sandwich or bit of malt loaf etc just in case :D If you dont eat it on the run you can always feed the ducks when you get home :D

    Better to take it and not need it than need it and not have......


    Damn! ninja'd
    Like wot he said.
    Tail end Charlie

    The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.
  • nolight
    nolight Posts: 261
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91

    Wrong.
    More problems but still living....
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    I never bother up to 40 miles because there's just no need, if i'm out on a long one it'll be a small piece of flapjack every now and again with fluids taken little and often.
  • Yes, I think you should. Energy drink is fine too (just another source of carbs; no need to over complicate things), but don't shell out on lucozade or anything like that. Dextrose or fruit juice in water will do the same thing.

    It depends on how hard you're working, really!
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    If you ride for 3 hours at a brisk pace you could easily be burning >2000kCal. You need to replace some of those calories at some point so there really is no reason to not eat something on a ride. Even a couple of bits of flapjack or soreen will mean you don't have to stuff your face after the ride. There's nothing cool about not eating on a ride - it doesn't make you a hard man.
    More problems but still living....
  • amaferanga wrote:
    If you ride for 3 hours at a brisk pace you could easily be burning >2000kCal. You need to replace some of those calories at some point so there really is no reason to not eat something on a ride. Even a couple of bits of flapjack or soreen will mean you don't have to stuff your face after the ride. There's nothing cool about not eating on a ride - it doesn't make you a hard man.

    Spot on.

    For a 50 mile ride I'll usually take a gel bottle with a few High5 gels in it or a couple of Shot Blocs packets cut in half, couple of bits of Soreen in the jersey pocket too and probably a bottle with High5 2:1 in it and one with water (or both with 2:1 if the tempo is going to be high). An hour into the ride and the eating begins at 20 min intervals and it keeps me strong for the whole time.
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
    The velominati isn't exactly credible advice.
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    haf1zur wrote:
    Ok guys, tomorrow the plan is to do a 50 miler, first time doing such a distance, did a couple of 25 milers a couple of weeks ago and felt that i had a lot more to give

    So far, only been taking water and hardly finish a 1/4 of the 750ml bottle i have

    Would it be wise to take some bars and possibly an energy drink with me? going to head off straight after breakfast in the morning, hope to finish in 3 hours or so


    Don't take any food then you'll realise what a silly question you've asked!

    You should realistically be taking food on every ride.. even if its just an emergency gel on rides of less than 30 miles.

    For 50 miles at a slow pace I'd be looking at:

    2x Energy drink sachets (SIS Go Electrolyte energy drink is my favourite - lemon and lime mmmmm)
    1x Banana
    2x emergency gels

    750ml per 1.5 hours
    banana after 1.5 hours
    emergency gels to get home if you struggle.
  • haf1zur
    haf1zur Posts: 124
    Thanks for the replies

    3 bananas, 1.5 litres of sis orange and 4 go ahead bars later i am done

    just under 4 hours for 49 miles, will have to do this again, targets keep moving
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
    The velominati isn't exactly credible advice.

    There is no other advice.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91 especially if you want to lose weight.

    Seriously though, I take a banana, and usually refill some munchies at coffee shop before finishing ride.
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    I honestly had no idea that people actually take those rules seriously. I just thought they were a bit of attempted humour.
    More problems but still living....
  • I hope they don't! I had never heard of them before I joined this forum. Stupid internet meme, and debatably not pervasive enough to be a 'meme' at all.
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    meursault wrote:
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
    The velominati isn't exactly credible advice.

    There is no other advice.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91 especially if you want to lose weight.

    Seriously though, I take a banana, and usually refill some munchies at coffee shop before finishing ride.
    You can't be serious? Please tell me you're not being serious :?:
  • stueys
    stueys Posts: 1,332
    I run at about 30-40grms of carbs an hour for anything over a couple of hours. If I'm riding a long distance I try to start eating 20 mins in. My muscles get tired faster if I'm not eating quickly enough, unless its just a flat run.
  • Sprool
    Sprool Posts: 1,022
    I like to take a roast chicken and a half bottle of claret with me if I'm going more than 4 miles. I may not be very fast but I really enjoy my riding.
  • I went out after a good breakfast today. My cadence was pants, I struggled to get over a speed bump. Couldn't work it out. stopped about 20 miles out, eat a Jordan's breakfast bar and had half a bottle of water and within a little while I was doing a lot better and by the end of 40 miles I was feeling a lot lot better.

    You never know where your bodies energy levels are, so just take some nutty, fruity stuff, sugary stuff. You never know.

    I agree with the claret and chicken though if I am cycling to my river for a days fly fishing;)
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    amaferanga wrote:
    I honestly had no idea that people actually take those rules seriously. I just thought they were a bit of attempted humour.

    There is humour involved. The rules are the path to the calling.
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    meursault wrote:
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
    The velominati isn't exactly credible advice.

    There is no other advice.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91 especially if you want to lose weight.

    Seriously though, I take a banana, and usually refill some munchies at coffee shop before finishing ride.
    You can't be serious? Please tell me you're not being serious :?:

    Deadly serious, banana and coffee shop for me.
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    meursault wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    I honestly had no idea that people actually take those rules seriously. I just thought they were a bit of attempted humour.

    There is humour involved. The rules are the path to the calling.

    Right.
    More problems but still living....
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    amaferanga wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    I honestly had no idea that people actually take those rules seriously. I just thought they were a bit of attempted humour.

    There is humour involved. The rules are the path to the calling.

    Right.

    :)
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • RandG
    RandG Posts: 779
    A wee snort of coke before the off, and then some speed if and when required :roll:
  • nolight
    nolight Posts: 261
    meursault wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    nolight wrote:
    No food is required for training under 4 hours.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91
    The velominati isn't exactly credible advice.

    There is no other advice.

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5

    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#91 especially if you want to lose weight.

    Seriously though, I take a banana, and usually refill some munchies at coffee shop before finishing ride.
    You can't be serious? Please tell me you're not being serious :?:

    Deadly serious, banana and coffee shop for me.

    And don't forget. No latte. Latte is for sissies. Cyclists don't drink latte.
    http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#56
  • RandG wrote:
    A wee snort of coke before the off, and then some speed if and when required :roll:

    Aka 'a quick Boonen' :wink:
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    RandG wrote:
    A wee snort of coke before the off, and then some speed if and when required :roll:

    What about the EPO? you blood transfuse apres ride?

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    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • RandG
    RandG Posts: 779
    meursault wrote:
    What about the EPO? you blood transfuse apres ride?


    I can get EPO also, drop me a PM, I'll sort you out. Keep it to yourself though :wink: